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re: The modern woman, perfectly encapsulated in one post
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:33 pm to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:33 pm to GreenRockTiger
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I had a hen house - still took a cock to make chicks
Go on...
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:33 pm to caro81
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i have never perceived you as particularly dense
thank you, I think
I made a deduction based off of your post and the collective thought process of this thread and tOT in general.
as far as the OP's reference single mom- if she doesn't feel the attraction to him that will last long term, then I think it's wise of her to question if she should stay long term- even though the dude seems to be top-notch for the kid.
but's it's probs a bs reddit post so whatever.
This board, and honestly probably more men than would openly admit, have a substantially lower view of single women than that of the single dad who helped create the child.
If we are to discuss the reasons a female ends up as a single mom, to generalize every single mom as trashy (SS, I'm looking at you) or of lesser worth, that is a problem. We don't know everyone's story, the mile they walked in their shoes leading up to the 'single parent' era they find themselves in.
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Anyone, regardless of gender, is going to be, in general, considered of lower value as most potential partners will not want to be saddled with a kid (either at all, or one that's not going to be their own).
Having a child doesn't make that person of lesser value than that of the person who does not in the relationship. It does however have everything to with one's personal preferences in dating. But to say that a single parent (male of female) is of less value and worth, solely because they have a child, is horseshite.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:33 pm to waiting4saturday
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Girls have it in their head that Mr. 6’4” billionaire is going to come sweep them off their feet.
And then they’ll find something wrong with him.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:34 pm to AwesomeSauce
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I think it's more the implication that men playing the field and having lots of sex is seen as a good thing before they get locked down, or after a divorce. At the same time the OT feels women should be tight, naturally curvy but thin, and abstain from sex. It takes two to tango, both are complicit.
I agree. Rampant, casual, meaningless sex is destroying society.
It makes people less capable of partaking in a long term meaningful relationship.
This is why I laugh at the "ugh, why are men such incels???" Articles.
Do they want men to go out and plow whatever they can find? They'd be ruining a potential wife/mother for just a quick little dopamine shot.
You can see many of these single mothers are often ruined from that one dude who just wanted a quick nut. Even more sad is when the woman doesn't realize she was just a quick nut for him.
And women should stop entertaining the shitty men. It rewards shitty behavior and demoralizes higher quality men from even trying.
Eventually this will reach a tipping point.
The summary is casual meaningless sex is destroying society and people and pair bonding abilities and this trickles to children and the cycle repeats.
College, dating apps, pop culture, etc. Are deeply invested in casual sex culture.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:34 pm to Fun Bunch
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This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:36 pm to tigernurse
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Having a child doesn't make that person of lesser value than that of the person who does not in the relationship. It does however have everything to with one's personal preferences in dating. But to say that a single parent (male of female) is of less value and worth, solely because they have a child, is horseshite.
You're arguing real world vs. dating world. I don't think it's controversial to say people that have children are generally seen as more of a red flag than those who do not have children for most age groups.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:42 pm to Jcorye1
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I don't think it's controversial to say people that have children are generally seen as more of a red flag than those who do not have children for most age groups.
If you're 20s/30s and you have kids and you're never married/divorced that's a red flag pending a good explanation.
Marriage is one of the most important decisions of your life and screwing it up is life altering. So many people approach marriage like glorified dating.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:45 pm to tiggerthetooth
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most important decisions of your life and screwing it up is life altering. So many people approach marriage like glorified dating.
And sometimes you put a lot of thought and effort into it and you still end up marrying a criminal and just waiting for his starting role to show up one night on dateline
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:47 pm to Aspercel
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And sometimes you put a lot of thought and effort into it and you still end up marrying a criminal and just waiting for his starting role to show up one night on dateline
And almost every time there were signs that went ignored and got crowded out by the typical attraction traits (looks/money/status).
No one just wakes up and commits crimes. The behaviors are there, you just have rose colored glasses.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:47 pm to Odysseus32
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am kinda sick of men on this board being sexist because they lack the most basic skills in dating, and therefore it's the woman's fault. Because they "lack logic" as if most everyone here isn't hovering around a 95 IQ.
I think a lot of the ballers with engineering degrees and IT or tech jobs have high IQs and low EQ (emotional intelligence) if you
will.
Meaning that a high EQ helps with your awareness around others especially of the opposite sex
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
Or they were hidden in sociopathy. Some people are very good actors.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:48 pm to Aspercel
ga aspy
Do people treat you as a lesser being when you mention your boys, Scotty and Ken? Do people shy away from possibly taking a role in the financial responsibility of feeding them?
I could never see you getting in a minivan with some dude, Ken and Scotty and driving to Disney.
Do people treat you as a lesser being when you mention your boys, Scotty and Ken? Do people shy away from possibly taking a role in the financial responsibility of feeding them?
I could never see you getting in a minivan with some dude, Ken and Scotty and driving to Disney.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:what does this mean
So many people approach marriage like glorified dating.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:49 pm to Hangit
Yes. Horse girls are crazy so that is an automatic no from most before even thinking about the financial aspects.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:50 pm to Aspercel
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Or they were hidden in sociopathy. Some people are very good actors.
Something that would have been picked up on by family/community in an earlier age.
You can see the devastating effects of the new dating world where mates are more likely selected for status/money looks instead of values.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:ask the 90% of the LLOTOT that have been divorced
So many people approach marriage like glorified dating.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
It's impossible of course that a narcissist can hide their tendencies for their own best interest until you are around them and living with them and in high stress situations with them dealing with life and get to peak behind the curtain. That of course never happens.
The issue with blanket statements is that blanket statements cover some, but belittle and offend many. Your view may cover 60+ percent of divorces, but not all.
The issue with blanket statements is that blanket statements cover some, but belittle and offend many. Your view may cover 60+ percent of divorces, but not all.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:51 pm to Fun Bunch
28 year old single mom
Has a man that according to her splits bills 50/50 but she brings 2 people to the relationship...half of your child's bills isn't 50/50. So for starters don't short change the guy. 50/50 sounds better but every guy knows it's 70/30 or worse...godforbid she has to pay for her own cellphone.
You wanted a fancy dinner...he treated you to a nice dinner and a full-blown vacation, he treated your kid to a once in a lifetime first memory. So your upset he overdid your request and was thoughtful enough to include your child(not his) and has the audacity to attempt to treat them like their own.
Guy asked you to marry him...I don't think his thoughts were...what's in it for me? Pretty sure it was along the lines of " she's not perfect...no one is, I love her for some reason and want her and her kid in my life...she then says yes but has doubts because she thinks she can do better probably because a few Chads want to smash and are blowing up her DMs.
I hope for good old baws sake she blows it.
Not my type? What guys 1st preferred choice for serious relationship is 28 single mom on dating apps? Sometimes look in the mirror and see yourself for all your good and the hard one...all your faults. Be grateful someone loves you inspite of both and are attempting to be their best and do right by you.
Maybe they don't get their haircut as often as you would like because Junior needed new shoes for school. Maybe he thinks your kid shouldn't be raised on Hot Pockets and Cereal because mom is too busy on social media posting photos of herself talking about the kid being her world for likes and attention vs working and being able to support herself or the kid properly.
How do you think he had money for a vacation for 3? Spend 200 for 1 night of dinner for two with a few drinks or 500 to stock a fridge and pantry for a month for 3
*sorry to rant...even if the post is fake...girls like this exist and it irritates the cap out of me
Has a man that according to her splits bills 50/50 but she brings 2 people to the relationship...half of your child's bills isn't 50/50. So for starters don't short change the guy. 50/50 sounds better but every guy knows it's 70/30 or worse...godforbid she has to pay for her own cellphone.
You wanted a fancy dinner...he treated you to a nice dinner and a full-blown vacation, he treated your kid to a once in a lifetime first memory. So your upset he overdid your request and was thoughtful enough to include your child(not his) and has the audacity to attempt to treat them like their own.
Guy asked you to marry him...I don't think his thoughts were...what's in it for me? Pretty sure it was along the lines of " she's not perfect...no one is, I love her for some reason and want her and her kid in my life...she then says yes but has doubts because she thinks she can do better probably because a few Chads want to smash and are blowing up her DMs.
I hope for good old baws sake she blows it.
Not my type? What guys 1st preferred choice for serious relationship is 28 single mom on dating apps? Sometimes look in the mirror and see yourself for all your good and the hard one...all your faults. Be grateful someone loves you inspite of both and are attempting to be their best and do right by you.
Maybe they don't get their haircut as often as you would like because Junior needed new shoes for school. Maybe he thinks your kid shouldn't be raised on Hot Pockets and Cereal because mom is too busy on social media posting photos of herself talking about the kid being her world for likes and attention vs working and being able to support herself or the kid properly.
How do you think he had money for a vacation for 3? Spend 200 for 1 night of dinner for two with a few drinks or 500 to stock a fridge and pantry for a month for 3
*sorry to rant...even if the post is fake...girls like this exist and it irritates the cap out of me
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
Family being in another country could hide that pretty quickly.
And this hypothetical person was definitely not picked for looks/money/status.
And this hypothetical person was definitely not picked for looks/money/status.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:54 pm to Fun Bunch
Makes me appreciate my GF even more.
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