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Griffin options on Jonas
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:22 pm
Pels are waiting till All star break? He will be able go wherever he wants for his available max, right? Is griffin avoiding 4 top heavy contracts?
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 9:26 pm
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:26 pm to slutiger5
He’s a dinosaur in a league that doesn’t value dinosaurs so JV doesn’t have much leverage here. I would imagine Griff wants him to remain an expiring contract for potential trades. If they don’t trade for a center I think JV will be back. He likes the team and the city and he’s not going to find a better combination of pay and potential to win.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:36 pm to slutiger5
His available max?
What like $15M tops?
What like $15M tops?
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:40 pm to TigerinATL
I wouldn’t mind bringing back JV for like 7-8 million/ year on like a 2 year deal. He’s not a starting center anymore but you can still throw him out there for 12-15 minutes and let him go to work in the post. That’s worth like 7 million.
I think Larry is the one that needs to be moved, he does not look good. I would try to turn him and Kira into Gafford.
That gives us an offensive center in JV and a defensive center in Gafford
I think Larry is the one that needs to be moved, he does not look good. I would try to turn him and Kira into Gafford.
That gives us an offensive center in JV and a defensive center in Gafford
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:56 pm to Balsamic_duck
Lol at Jonas taking $7mil
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:57 pm to Balsamic_duck
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but you can still throw him out there for 12-15 minutes and let him go to work in the post.
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on this board.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:04 pm to Balsamic_duck
All things considered, he's still worth a 2/25-30mil. A plus offensive player who can give you a 12/8 in 20mins
He's the big that bangs with the embiid, jokic, nurkic that you don't have an option otherwise.
Lots of teams that need a center would do so.
He's the big that bangs with the embiid, jokic, nurkic that you don't have an option otherwise.
Lots of teams that need a center would do so.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:15 pm to slutiger5
He’s non restricted and a solid center. I was leaning on the rule “don’t get rid of a possible trade option. “ I see him signing with a returning large market favorite for a similar contract as his current if we miss.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:46 pm to slutiger5
One of the only real pros on the team you can count on to be out there and give his all every night. I hope they re-sign Jonas.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:53 am to slutiger5
quote:
He’s non restricted and a solid center. I was leaning on the rule “don’t get rid of a possible trade option. “ I see him signing with a returning large market favorite for a similar contract as his current if we miss.
No playoff team is spending their entire MLE on JV. Most playoff teams have been reluctant to even spend the full MLE on anyone because that locks you into not going above the first apron.
If you’re a non playoff team you’re still not spending a ton on him, and he’s not the piece that will make you a contender. Like I said, his best combination of pay and winning potential will be to take what the Pels give him.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 5:55 am to slutiger5
Jonas is too consistent for our team. He really needs to miss at least 30 or so games a year if he is gonna be a pel.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:50 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Why do people say this?
He’s not a starting center anymore
He's easily a starting center in the NBA. You can't name 30 centers or come close to 30 centers better.
You can't use the defense excuse either as we were the 6th best defense in the NBA last season with Val as our starting center.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 8:13 am to slutiger5
He's gone. He'll get paid by someone who values his skillset and will put it to good use. We clearly don't.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:35 am to slutiger5
Still people shitting on Jonas no matter that he comes to play every night and at times can carry the team when needed. I just can’t understand why so many people don’t like a guy that plays every game hurt or not on a team where a stubbed toe keeps guys out 6 weeks.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:14 am to LSUPilot07
All things considered, he's currently the 15th highest paid center.
Top 20 center pay:
1. Jokic
2. Embiid
3. Gobert (albatross)
4. Davis
5. Ayton (albatross)
6. Adebayo
7. KAT
8. Lopez (24mil)
9. Capela (22.94mil)
10. Turner (20.45mil)
T11. Vucevic (20.0mil)
T11. Allen (20.0mil)
13. Poeltl (19.5mil)
14. Nurkic (17.5mil)
15. Valanciunas (15.067mil)
16. Robinson (15mil)
17. Reid (13.986mil)
18. Wembanyama (rookie deal)
19. Gafford (13.394mil)
20. Adams (12.6mil)
Top 20 center pay:
1. Jokic
2. Embiid
3. Gobert (albatross)
4. Davis
5. Ayton (albatross)
6. Adebayo
7. KAT
8. Lopez (24mil)
9. Capela (22.94mil)
10. Turner (20.45mil)
T11. Vucevic (20.0mil)
T11. Allen (20.0mil)
13. Poeltl (19.5mil)
14. Nurkic (17.5mil)
15. Valanciunas (15.067mil)
16. Robinson (15mil)
17. Reid (13.986mil)
18. Wembanyama (rookie deal)
19. Gafford (13.394mil)
20. Adams (12.6mil)
Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:25 am to htran90
You left out Porzingis and Sabonis.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:36 am to shel311
quote:
Why do people say this?
He's a fine regular season center. He is not a playoff caliber center, he shouldn't get more than 20 minutes per game in most playoff matchups.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:39 am to Epic Cajun
quote:He's 18 and 14 career per36 in the playoffs.
He's a fine regular season center. He is not a playoff caliber center, he shouldn't get more than 20 minutes per game in most playoff matchups.
His net rating is -0.3, so mostly negligible, certainly not what people are suggesting.
Nothing of what people are saying is actually the case on the court. All we've heard for 2 seasons is how we can't have a good defense with him, and we had a darn near elite defense with him just last season.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:31 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Like stated above, I think Griff keeps his options open at trade deadline. If we do not deal him, I could see him getting 2/$18 or 2/$20 to stay.
I wouldn’t mind bringing back JV for like 7-8 million/ year on like a 2 year deal. He’s not a starting center anymore but you can still throw him out there for 12-15 minutes and let him go to work in the post. That’s worth like 7 million.
I think Larry is the one that needs to be moved, he does not look good. I would try to turn him and Kira into Gafford.
That gives us an offensive center in JV and a defensive center in Gafford
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:51 am to NOSHAU
Seriously delusional. He's not coming back for anything less than 15 a year. The idea that he'd sign for 9-10 mil is comical at best.
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