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Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:56 am to bobBoxer
Make sure any promises by the military recruiter are placed in writing, otherwise your son will be up the creek with no paddle.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:59 am to bobBoxer
I’m not sure either way but congratulations on a job well done as a dad. Sounds like your son has his priorities right
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:02 am to dek81572
quote:you can just feel something about to pop off and don't want my son anywhere near, i really think he wants to prove something to me or himself, im so proud of him for having his shite together way more than I did, but I dont want him going to ukraine and getting shot by some russian neither
The bad thing about trying out to be a PJ is that there is around a 85% attrition rate going through traing that takes over 2 years. Some of the hardest in the military. He said he can't live with himself if he doesn't try. I'm proud he wants to serve but scared for him at the same time
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:03 am to bobBoxer
He wants them to pay for EMT school so he can get PTSD then get out and make $12/hour? Nah, make the Feds pay for nursing school or even a pre-med degree with GI bill.
And don’t finance any chargers for 15% interest.
And don’t finance any chargers for 15% interest.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:10 am to bobBoxer
I’m as pro-American as they come, but right now, and for a long time, have been controlled by the MIC/Pentagon/Globalist Elite and defense contractors.
They make money by sending our youth to endless battles where they leave them there in the blink of an eye.
No way I would encourage my son to join the modern day forces run by guys in heals and lipstick.
Our soldiers have to play by the rules of engagement & hands tied behind their backs, while the Taliban has more rights than our guys.
In all Due respect to you and your son, but Screw that, I’d find another way. We are about to be in battles all over the place if we don’t. Turn this around quickly, so he may not even have a choice.
They make money by sending our youth to endless battles where they leave them there in the blink of an eye.
No way I would encourage my son to join the modern day forces run by guys in heals and lipstick.
Our soldiers have to play by the rules of engagement & hands tied behind their backs, while the Taliban has more rights than our guys.
In all Due respect to you and your son, but Screw that, I’d find another way. We are about to be in battles all over the place if we don’t. Turn this around quickly, so he may not even have a choice.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:13 am to UAinSOUTHAL
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This guy is talking about going to an entry level trade school as a career I don’t think 4-year undergrad plus professional school is in the cards.
What are you talking about? He’s a kid and needs a vision. If his lifelong plan is to be an EMT-B for Acadian have at it, but if I had a kid I’d be giving him real advice
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:27 am to bobBoxer
Been a paramedic for fire department 24 years and was an emt for 2 years. I don’t know much about military. I will advise not to go work for any random ambulance service, 5 years he will be burnt out and regretting it. The firefighter route is good but he needs to be cautious on getting on a fire dept that runs ambulance service. Unfortunately I chose a department with ambulances.
Many fire departments will hire you and at least pay to send him to emt school. Paramedic school can be expensive and varies by department whether they will pay or not. If he can find a good fire department that pays extra for being a medic but doesn’t have ambulances I’d go that route. Even for fire departments, if they have ambulances, expect to be stuck on them first 10-15 years.
Eta: I’ll say this, I’ve advised my kids to stay away from first responder type jobs, at least from busy departments, especially involving ambulances. I wish I had chose a different path
Many fire departments will hire you and at least pay to send him to emt school. Paramedic school can be expensive and varies by department whether they will pay or not. If he can find a good fire department that pays extra for being a medic but doesn’t have ambulances I’d go that route. Even for fire departments, if they have ambulances, expect to be stuck on them first 10-15 years.
Eta: I’ll say this, I’ve advised my kids to stay away from first responder type jobs, at least from busy departments, especially involving ambulances. I wish I had chose a different path
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:30 am to bobBoxer
So if he joins he will get at least an EMT cert. Possibly and EMTA. Also if he is in LA and in the national guard, we now get tuition and Fee Exemption, of he wants to go on to be a paramedic.
The army offers a paramedic program but it's mostly reserved for flight medics.
You're correct with the state licensing, but in most states they accept NREMT, a few don't (Texas has its own state process).
The army offers a paramedic program but it's mostly reserved for flight medics.
You're correct with the state licensing, but in most states they accept NREMT, a few don't (Texas has its own state process).
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:30 am to beachdude
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but the Army medics and Navy/Marine corpsmen I encountered in Vietnam were heroes, to a man and very well trained for a future in emergency medicine.
One of my uncles was an Army medic in Vietnam. I can only imagine the things he saw and dealt with on a daily basis. He had a lot of stories and I wish he was still around to tell them. I remember him telling me a story about running over a Vietnamese soldier that was shooting at him with a truck, and he followed it up with a "frick that guy".
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:32 am to Proximo
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If his lifelong plan is to be an EMT-B for Acadian have at it, but if I had a kid I’d be giving him real advice
I’d rather my kid flip burgers than be an emt at Acadian
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:54 am to bobBoxer
Tell him to joint the military and do something completely different. Mechanic, HVAC, information security…anything. Get experience and knowledge in a completely different career path.
Then use the military to pay for his schooling to become an EMT/paramedic.
That way when/if he gets burnt out he has something he can fall back on and do something different.
There is such a huge shortage of police/EMS right now they’re just looking for a pulse in some places.
Then use the military to pay for his schooling to become an EMT/paramedic.
That way when/if he gets burnt out he has something he can fall back on and do something different.
There is such a huge shortage of police/EMS right now they’re just looking for a pulse in some places.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 11:44 am to Obtuse1
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I find it positively fascinating that the kid wants to be an EMT and people are suggesting setting his sights on being a PJ. PJs are tier 2 (tier 1 if 24th STS). Who is going to go through that hell with the plan to get out and be an EMT? It is like someone saying they want to be a paralegal and the suggestion is to go to Stanford or Yale law school to get there.
was thinking the same thing
son of a friend of mine was a PJ in Iraq and Afghanistan and he went through some really intense training and combat.
the medical part of his job was the easy part. the toughest was being inserted for a downed helicopter, miles deep in to enemy held territories
Posted on 11/4/23 at 11:55 am to brass2mouth
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Tell him to joint the military and do something completely different. Mechanic, HVAC, information security…anything. Get experience and knowledge in a completely different career path.
Then use the military to pay for his schooling to become an EMT/paramedic.
That way when/if he gets burnt out he has something he can fall back on and do something different.
There is such a huge shortage of police/EMS right now they’re just looking for a pulse in some places.
Definitely gonna tell him all of this, he definitely wants to be an EMT/paramedic just trying to figure out the best route for him to get there without being swamped in debt, i really do appreciate yall
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:06 pm to brass2mouth
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Tell him to joint the military and do something completely different. Mechanic, HVAC, information security…anything. Get experience and knowledge in a completely different career path. Then use the military to pay for his schooling to become an EMT/paramedic. That way when/if he gets burnt out he has something he can fall back on and do something different. There is such a huge shortage of police/EMS right now they’re just looking for a pulse in some places.
Best advice in the thread, jealous I didn’t put it this way.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:07 pm to bobBoxer
The Marines don’t have medics. He would have to be in the Navy and attached to a Marine unit.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:18 pm to bobBoxer
I was a Navy Corpsman. Got my EMT national cert. It was the best time of my life... Early 90s in San Diego lol. Marines will treat you good. I learned independence and motivation in the military. Got all kinds of experience and certs. You can also specialize as a Corpsman. You do way more than civilian nurses. I have friends who have moved on to be civilian surgical techs, respiratory techs, PAs.
I used my GI bill to get a degree and moved onto something else but that experience shaped me.
I used my GI bill to get a degree and moved onto something else but that experience shaped me.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:18 pm to Duzz
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I'll be honest with you. I use to take a lot of pride in our military and promised myself if we were in a real war with china I would be the first to enlist. However...now a days? Do you want your son to serve a military outfit that cannot even clearly define what is a man and what is a woman? That one of the highest position in the army is given to a confused and possibly mentally ill man?
So you've never been in the military but are an expert based on...? What Tommy fricking Tuberville tells you (never served)?
Go frick yourself. Seriously.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:28 pm to bobBoxer
I was an Army medic, fun times at Ft. Sam Houston.
I also did a rotation at Ft. Stewart with civilian staff for brushing soldiers up on their basic combat casualty skills such as needle chest decompression
I learned how to administer fentanyl ketamine iv fluids plus know how to perform a cricothyrotomy
I also did a rotation at Ft. Stewart with civilian staff for brushing soldiers up on their basic combat casualty skills such as needle chest decompression
I learned how to administer fentanyl ketamine iv fluids plus know how to perform a cricothyrotomy
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:33 pm to bobBoxer
Medics for the Marines serve in the Navy
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