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re: 16yo Son wants to be a medic in army or marines
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:31 pm to CobraCommander83
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:31 pm to CobraCommander83
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Join the National Guard or Reserves. Use the benefits the military would give for school while drilling once a month.
Not sure if he is dead set on being active duty(for whatever reason) but this is the answer.
Drill can be taxing, but it's worth the benefits as a young guy in college.
Taxing as in he'll have a military commitment plus a possible civilian job and school.
If he's up to all that, he'll have much better career progression than just wasting 4 years on active duty.
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Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:40 pm to Privateer 2007
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Normal, heterosexual, males, especially White males have no place in military today.
I'm sorry.
It sucks.
But, this is reality.
It is not reality. This is a copy of a post and my response a few days ago:
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I would like to think that for every one trannie troop, there are a hundred bad mamma jammas with a penchant for wasting bad guys. Good red-blooded baws. Maybe a hundred is even laughably inaccurate. Perhaps a thousand is more likely. Hell y’all tell me. What y’all think on that angle?
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My old unit just posted a picture of their most recent SURT grads. They are headed off to Ranger School. Most will return with a second tab and be on their way to being high speed low drag light infantry warriors that do Hollywood jumps just because they fricking love it.
I got my first platoon in late 89 after the trio of Airborne, IOBC, and Ranger School. The Army was not far off its post-Vietnam nadir when nobody said anything good about the military. We invaded Panama over Christmas and went over the berm into Iraq the next summer. Outside of a 60 gunner in Panama who had a bit of an "episode" every man in my platoon did their job and did it well. They were mainly guys who had been broomed onto the trash heap of society and joined without the patriotic wind of 9/11 at their backs. They did a dirty job well and came back home to a nice welcome that they deserved. They made me look good in the process and for that and for keeping me alive they have my eternal gratitude. At the time the Army faced similar ambivalence and disdain. I still have friends knocking around Liberty nee Bragg because when you go to Fayettenam you never leave, they tell me All American is ready for the fight, I believe them. People can shite on the military all they like but soldiers generally rise to the occasion and in my actual experience some completely surprise you.
I can't really help the OP, the only Army medic I was close friends with served in The Regiment and upon getting out he pursued becoming a doctor and is a pediatric oncologist now. The Army grounded him and showed him his path.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:41 pm to HerkFlyer
quote:he just told me he wants to go active duty, I don't really want him in the military at all, trying to convince him maybe go the reserves or firefighter route
Not sure if he is dead set on being active duty(for whatever reason) but this is the answer.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:42 pm to Kafka
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I saw Steve McGarrett correct somebody on that once
Remember that episode vividly. A Marine on R&R from Vietnam has an accident and ends up in the hospital where he has a flashback and takes Danno hostage. One of the early depictions of PTSD on network television.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:42 pm to HerkFlyer
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Drill can be taxing, but it's worth the benefits as a young guy in college.
One thing you learn quickly in the Reserves or NG is weekend drill will always be the weekend when your friends are doing the coolest stuff.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:54 pm to POTUS2024
quote:not gonna lie I have zero idea about any of this stuff, he has been telling me he wants to a medic in military and when he gets out he wants to do EMT, I've just been googling stuff, I just tell him Im proud of him and we are going to figure out a way to make it happen
EMT is only like one semester at a community college, iirc.
My advice would be for him to do EMT at a local CC then find an Army or USMC reserve unit for EOD. Then find a way to work up to Paramedic. That is pretty cheap on the education costs and guaranteed job security for life.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:56 pm to bobBoxer
If he goes in, have him at least be a paratrooper. He’ll learn things he just won’t learn anywhere else.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:58 pm to bobBoxer
I believe that if he has interest in the US Military to take it. It will open doors...
As for EMS... They get tired of picking up 300# people when they fall... I can only imagine that Ambulance is a tough job...
As for EMS... They get tired of picking up 300# people when they fall... I can only imagine that Ambulance is a tough job...
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:00 am to bobBoxer
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he just told me he wants to go active duty, I don't really want him in the military at all, trying to convince him maybe go the reserves or firefighter route
That is a choice he has to make. Don't push him too hard.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:02 am to Jim Rockford
quote:you IDed it on that scrap of info?quote:Remember that episode vividly
I saw Steve McGarrett correct somebody on that once
quote:I get the impression 5-O was perhaps the only TV show where tVietnam War was part of the narrative. There were episodes about guys on R&R, deserters, con men ripping off service men... Most TV shows of the time ignored Nam, referring to it vaguely if they were forced to mention it at all.
A Marine on R&R from Vietnam has an accident and ends up in the hospital where he has a flashback and takes Danno hostage. One of the early depictions of PTSD on network television.
I watched a bunch of 5-Os in the late 90s, around the time Lord died. The episode under discussion (Yaphet Kotto was the Marine) was one that stayed in my mind.
FWIW Lord's wife was 15 yrs older than him, & lived to be 100
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:05 am to Obtuse1
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One thing you learn quickly in the Reserves or NG is weekend drill will always be the weekend when your friends are doing the coolest stuff.
The reason I said that is because I'm currently dealing with it monthly as a 37 year old Major.
It's amazing how many things you want to do that coincide with drill weekend.
8 more years here.
Edit: I'm sick of the military. HOWEVER, I wouldn't trade the experiences and the friends I've made for anything. The best times of my life were spent flying for uncle sam to all corners of the globe with some of my best friends. Unfortunately, those days are over. I'm just riding it out now.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 12:11 am
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:12 am to bobBoxer
Navy or Army for med. Not a bad option for a decent military life.
Most military mos will have some benefit, some more than others. You can still receive free college after any of them.
Have kid find out what army & navy can offer towards medical mos’ and bonuses.
If your kid doesn’t know what he wants or not set on med in the military, or wants an adventure, have him go see the Marine Corps recruiter. Our sales presentation is different than the other branches and focuses more on intangibles the kid may be looking for. The Marines won’t give you a bonus or specific mos though.
Doesn’t matter, if the first recruiter is worth a damn, kid will join, because first to contact first to contract is a true thing. Good luck to your son and very glad kids still love their country and respect the military.
*and for those tired of recruiters calling, just talk to them and tell them your kid has asthma and they’ll leave you alone ,
Most military mos will have some benefit, some more than others. You can still receive free college after any of them.
Have kid find out what army & navy can offer towards medical mos’ and bonuses.
If your kid doesn’t know what he wants or not set on med in the military, or wants an adventure, have him go see the Marine Corps recruiter. Our sales presentation is different than the other branches and focuses more on intangibles the kid may be looking for. The Marines won’t give you a bonus or specific mos though.
Doesn’t matter, if the first recruiter is worth a damn, kid will join, because first to contact first to contract is a true thing. Good luck to your son and very glad kids still love their country and respect the military.
*and for those tired of recruiters calling, just talk to them and tell them your kid has asthma and they’ll leave you alone ,
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:23 am to HerkFlyer
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Not sure if he is dead set on being active duty(for whatever reason) but this is the answer. Drill can be taxing, but it's worth the benefits as a young guy in college. Taxing as in he'll have a military commitment plus a possible civilian job and school. If he's up to all that, he'll have much better career progression than just wasting 4 years on active duty.
I’ve been in the National Guard for 17 years. I went AGR 3 years ago. Before going AGR, it was tough at times being part time and working a civilian job. It can be a lot at times between State Active Duty callups, AT, JRTC, deployments, etc.
However, it depends on what type of Unit you are in. A combat arms unit will be more optempo. The benefits are worth it IMO. Just got to take advantage of them.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:41 am to bobBoxer
Don't overlook Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer. They're EMT certified and get to do badass stuff.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:49 am to bobBoxer
Active duty Navy - Corpsman is such a crapshoot. He could end up green side with the Marines as FMF, and deploy with them. He could end up at any joint or Navy hospital, or at a clinic. He could end up on any class of ship. On top of all of that, not all Corpsmen end up doing treatment/medical care - some end up as biomed techs, repairing X-ray and MRI machines.
An ultra diverse field to say the least. If his goal is to be an EMT, go be an EMT - serving in the Navy will do nothing but guarantee his GI Bill, as long as he has 1 full honorable tour.
An ultra diverse field to say the least. If his goal is to be an EMT, go be an EMT - serving in the Navy will do nothing but guarantee his GI Bill, as long as he has 1 full honorable tour.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:49 am to bobBoxer
I was a corpsman for 12 years. Send that boy to trade school
Posted on 11/4/23 at 12:50 am to bobBoxer
16, public school? He can enroll himself in ROTC. If he can’t figure that out at age 16, tell him it’s not for him, because I don’t want someone who can’t figure that out fighting for my freedom.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 1:07 am to Havoc
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US Air Force Combat Control Team.
One of the most interesting jobs in the military
Combat Controllers do nothing with medicine/EMT. They take over airports, land plans like a traffic controller and call in air strikes, they are some bad dudes. If he wants to be in an EMT field, Air Force Pararescue/ PJ is what he needs to be. They go through the same training but instead of calling in air strikes and taking over air fields, they become paramedics. They are the US Militaries only specifically trained combat rescue group. When Delta, Navy Seals, Rangers and Green Berets need rescuing, they call the PJ's. Their Motto is " These things we do so that others may live". They also get inserted with other spec ops teams to be their medics.
My son is 21 and has followed in my footsteps as a firefighter, he's been on the job for 2 years. He recently told me he's going to quit when he's done with Paramedic school and join the USAF to try and be a PJ. Selfishly I don't want him to go but he's always wanted to be in the military. The bad thing about trying out to be a PJ is that there is around a 85% attrition rate going through traing that takes over 2 years. Some of the hardest in the military. He said he can't live with himself if he doesn't try. I'm proud he wants to serve but scared for him at the same time.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 1:08 am
Posted on 11/4/23 at 1:12 am to Proximo
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quote:what would be the best route for him to take military -> GI bill -> go to PA school after he gets out of undergrad
This guy is talking about going to an entry level trade school as a career I don’t think 4-year undergrad plus professional school is in the cards.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 1:24 am to Privateer 2007
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Normal, heterosexual, males, especially White males have no place in military today.
I'm sorry.
It sucks.
But, this is reality.
Without even looking at your posting history I'm guessing you get triggered in the EV threads
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