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re: I Just Filled my Wife's SUV for $2.67

Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56846 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:02 pm to
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Do you know what adjusted for inflation means?


Yes, I do. You must be misunderstanding my point if you think I don't.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56846 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:04 pm to
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Whoever is president doesn't affect oil prices


Why do you think Biden was releasing the SPR?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Why do you think Biden was releasing the SPR?

Psycho-political reasons. The effect of the SPR on global oil prices is virtually nil.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56846 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:08 pm to
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Yeah, when Trump shut down the economy, and oil futures went negative.

LINK

That's what it took in 2020 to get gas prices under $2.



COVID shut down the economy.

You can look at the 9 months of 2023 on the chart above and compare to any 9 months of Trump's presidency. It's a start difference. And, it has nothing to do with a healthy level of inflation.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:16 pm to
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Why do you think Biden was releasing the SPR?


Yes, that was a momentary market manipulation, but the overarching government policies, relative to the O&G markets, have not acted to impact production in the last 30+ years.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26994 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:29 pm to
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That looks like some old timer talking about how they will never replace the horse. "They'd have to build highways and filling stations everywhere. It'll never happen"


How long has solar energy been around? How long since they started telling us that solar is the future of electricity?

Folks who said 35 years ago that that would never happen? Guess what...

Know what percentage of American electric consumption comes from solar today? A whopping 3.4%

It's still no closer to happening.

The very obvious difference as far as the automobile is that the gas powered automobile was mass produced at a price that most Americans making a living wage could afford. That isn't the case with EVs. The environmental lobby and the Democrats don't care what the cost is to consumers.

Sure, 100 years from now, 200 years from now, who knows what kind of more efficient energy source there might be? But today, in 2023, EVs as they are currently produced will not become the primary mode of transportation in this country. Democratic efforts to make it happen will result in major losses in elections. Issues like abortion, education, immigration, etc, are all important to voters...but economics and pocketbook issues are still #1.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:31 pm to
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but the overarching government policies, relative to the O&G markets, have not acted to impact production in the last 30+ years.



I'm not sure if you would include the oil export ban being lifted under Obama as "overarching government policies, relative to the O&G markets", but that had an enormous effect on domestic production.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:38 pm to
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COVID shut down the economy.

So you admit that Trump had nothing to do with the low price of gas in 2020. I agree, it had more to do with supply and demand.
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You can look at the 9 months of 2023 on the chart above and compare to...

...the current price, and the current price is lower.
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it has nothing to do with a healthy level of inflation.

And just like the prices under Trump, it doesn't really have anything to do with Biden, either.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120559 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Low 2.67(2.87) ? That’s not even close to low. This is how you are brainwashed


Relative to inflation of everything else the price of gas isnt that bad

Gas is double what it was in the 90s

Food, housing and other essentials seem way more than that
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 3:46 pm to
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How long has solar energy been around?

Since the begining of time. Every energy source not associated with geothermal was derived from energy from the sun. It all starts with the primary solar energy producers - plants.
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Sure, 100 years from now, 200 years from now, who knows what kind of more efficient energy source there might be?

Why not 5? Or 10? Or 15? Or 20? The fact is you don't know. It could happen any day.

Electricity for motive power just makes more sense. We'll probably get there sooner than the 100 years you predict.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 4:15 pm to
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I'm not sure if you would include the oil export ban being lifted under Obama as "overarching government policies, relative to the O&G markets", but that had an enormous effect on domestic production.


Dammit, yes, that affected domestic oil prices once we could export crude.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25589 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 4:27 pm to
Gas below 3$ is SUPER loW!!


Thanks Bidenomics!!


Posted by stuckintexas
austin
Member since Sep 2009
2230 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Granbury

My employees in Parker County are typically filling up my company trucks for 20-30 cents per gallon more than my employees down in the Hill Country or west Texas. It's evened out in the last couple of months. I haven't seen it cheaper anywhere.

We had a company admin meeting between all the offices and were joking about how sad it is to be happy that gas is below $3.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5641 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 4:39 pm to
oil is not a fossil fuel,it constantly replenishes ,the thing is the people that bring it to us have too much control ,although here in s. louisiana it is the hand that feeds us.there are better energy technologies,being held back from the world,imagine an electromagnetic generator that once you crank it up it never stops,water power,like stanley myers car.Tesla wireless energy lots more soon to change
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56846 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 10:28 pm to
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So you admit that Trump had nothing to do with the low price of gas in 2020


no

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I agree, it had more to do with supply and demand.



All pricing is due to supply and demand, retard.

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...the current price, and the current price is lower.



Prices fluctuate. Pointing to a single point in time is obviously flawed. It's why I said look at any of Trump's Jan through Sept numbers. It's a stark difference.

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And just like the prices under Trump, it doesn't really have anything to do with Biden, either.



This is incorrect.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 10:31 pm to
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Low 2.67(2.87) ? That’s not even close to low. This is how you are brainwashed


If you want the US to be energy independent for the first time ever, that’s about the sweet spot for the price. Cheap foreign oil from foreign countries might feel good at the pump for the poor people, but it’s bad for our economy.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 10:40 pm to
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Whoever is president doesn't affect oil prices. 2014 saw the collapse of the domestic energy industry due to domestic over production plus SA flooding market. 2020 saw prices crater again and further due to worldwide covid shutdown which benefits, in this exercise, the president presiding 2017-2020.


All this is very accurate, and I made quite a bit in oil and gas between 2010 and 2014. After getting crushed after that I mistakenly bought some dips in 2017 because I really thought Trump was going to save the US oil and gas companies. Whether it be tariffs or subsidies I thought Trump would be an asset. Little did I know he’d be a bitch to the saudis, but his family got paid well.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
7801 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 5:51 am to
She only has a one gallon tank? Not so big by Texas standards.
Posted by Tennessee River
Member since Oct 2023
256 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 6:36 am to
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17315 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 6:54 am to
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Get it back down to a buck eighty like it was during the era of Trump the Great and then maybe I would start calling it "low."

Get it back down to $0.39 like the 1st time I filled my own tank when I 1st got my license and then I will call it low.

It’s possible with capacity increases since we have a 1000 year supply of crude. Just gotta pump up the rookie numbers, literally.
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