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Sign-Stealing by Brent Venables during 2020 NC game
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:32 am
I had no idea this was alleged against Clemson until I read this today about the Michigan sign-stealing stuff:
Apparently this was pointed out back in 2020 by Sports Illustrated as well. Do any of y'all remember this being talked about right after the NC?
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When LSU played Clemson in the 2020 College Football Playoff, sources said the staff suspected Clemson of sending people to scout them in the SEC championship game and Peach Bowl. Brent Venables, then Clemson's defensive coordinator, has long been the focal point of sign-stealing speculation, according to multiple sources, though no one has publicly accused him of anything illegal. After LSU's first three offensive drives ended with three punts and one first down, sources said a frustrated coach Ed Orgeron told offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger, "Change it up." Upon changing signals, LSU scored touchdowns on five of its next six drives.
Apparently this was pointed out back in 2020 by Sports Illustrated as well. Do any of y'all remember this being talked about right after the NC?
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:34 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
Looks like it didn't help them much. 
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:34 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
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After LSU's first three offensive drives ended with three punts and one first down, sources said a frustrated coach Ed Orgeron told offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger, "Change it up." Upon changing signals, LSU scored touchdowns on five of its next six drives.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:37 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
This just confirms that even when other top 5 teams had our signals they couldn't do shite to stop the 19' squad.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:38 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
There were definitely rumors after the 2012 NC game debacle but I think most people just looked at our sideline and saw who the coach was,
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:38 am to BootyFett69
Coach O made a great call, there, if true.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:39 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
Respect for Coach O. Man is a General with the right assets under him!!
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:42 am to lsu4life77
Yeah, he made a great Pelini hire without interviewing him. What a great general!
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:42 am to OJsLifeCoach
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This just confirms that even when other top 5 teams had our signals they couldn't do shite to stop the 19' squad
Well they did stop them, until O and Co changed up their signals. Then they didn't know what was coming
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:46 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
I still don't see what is wrong with scouting another team.
I have heard the reasoning that it gives wealthier schools an advantage over other schools who cannot afford scouts.
However wealthier schools already have many other advantages (i.e. recruiting, facilities, staff, fan base, game atmosphere, etc.)
I have heard the reasoning that it gives wealthier schools an advantage over other schools who cannot afford scouts.
However wealthier schools already have many other advantages (i.e. recruiting, facilities, staff, fan base, game atmosphere, etc.)
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:49 am to chity
I don’t understand why a team wouldn’t change their signals before every big/conference game.
Leave the signals alone for Army and Grambling but then change them every other game
Leave the signals alone for Army and Grambling but then change them every other game
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:49 am to DonJuanDaMiles
"with the right assets under him". Didn't say he could find the right assets
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:50 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
Good luck making a compelling argument for sign stealing using that game as your evidence. He literally would have had more success throwing darts at his playbook to decide plays!
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:53 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
Yes should always change signals. Baseball does that all the time
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:56 am to TIGERhype
Lots of folks not reading this part…
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After LSU's first three offensive drives ended with three punts and one first down, sources said a frustrated coach Ed Orgeron told offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger, "Change it up." Upon changing signals, LSU scored touchdowns on five of its next six drives.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:57 am to lsu4life77
quote:He's a general if he's all in. If he hadn't gone full retard after winning the 2019 title he'd probably still be doing well here
Respect for Coach O. Man is a General with the right assets under him!!
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:58 am to DonJuanDaMiles
quote:
Yeah, he made a great Pelini hire without interviewing him. What a great general!
The man didn't read Art of War. A general is only as good as the officers beneath him.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:58 am to chity
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I still don't see what is wrong with scouting another team.
everybody does that, coaches, if they weren't able to do it themselves, had people scout other teams that we were going to play way back when I was in high school
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:01 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
I remember this so well. Heard that morning that rumor and that Venables does this so often. Our offense did stall a couple times in the first quarter as a result too. We figured em out by the 2nd quarter tho 
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:03 am to Geaux Piggins Geaux
“Clemson of sending people to scout them in the SEC championship game and Peach Bowl.”
Obviously they frickin suck at their job. Sign stealing and actual play of the team couldn’t keep up with BDJ.
Clemson folded after BDJ crushed those f’ers.
Obviously they frickin suck at their job. Sign stealing and actual play of the team couldn’t keep up with BDJ.
Clemson folded after BDJ crushed those f’ers.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 10:53 am
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