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re: 7 in 10 Louisiana children are on Medicaid

Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:56 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:56 am to
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See, this is why subjects like this can never be discussed. And as seen already, racial lines are drawn as well when we all know damn well it's not one group using, needing and/or gaming the system. This includes my experience in rural Texas as well as an edit. Just not Louisiana.


You are right, it's definitely the individual snidely responding to the person who started their argument with "frick you" that's the problem here. How dare us.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71531 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:00 am to
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But when 2/3 plus need a safety net, we have a society problem.


When viewed as a group, poor people tend to make horrific financial decisions. When viewed as a group, upper middle class doesn't really produce kids on par with the poor class. This is going to be a nasty, nasty problem until this company collapses.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1596 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:02 am to
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Over 60% of babies born in Louisiana are to mothers on Medicaid. And over half are born to unwed mothers.
Almost every pregnant woman in Louisiana is eligible for Medicaid. Post Obamacare the hospital where I worked had a group in admissions whose only purpose was to find some sort of insurance program for uninsured patients. They'd sign them up so we could get paid. Of course we had no idea if they ever paid a premium. It was hugely successful for the bottom line.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4925 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:04 am to
What an absolute failure of our state leaders to devise a tax incentive system like ITEP to lure industry. Instead they should change the state tax code so that companies could see the economic benefits of doing business here without having to lobby every school board, sheriff, and parish council in the state.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15015 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:17 am to
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the hospital is accepting that Medicaid will only pay $35 bc the procedure only costs $10 to begin with



Medicaid frequently pays less than the cost incurred, and it is a big reason you see it taken in limited cases. There are exceptions where it may pay well, and there are times they pay zero (ex: they won’t pay for discharge services from the hospital. You can bill them for a regular progress note on the day of discharge and get paid, but if you bill them like you bill every one else, you get zero). There are over 10,000 CPT codes, each of which is a distinct billable service which Medicaid, and each other third party payer, have matched to an amount they will pay and each biller has set to a bill. The lower number on either side is what gets paid.
Hospitals often strike deals with the state and federal governments to take x% Medicaid in exchange for funding or for certain amounts of indigent care for some amount of money.



And rough reimbursement for a normal, quick office visit from MCD is usually under half of what it is for most private insurers (~$35 vs $80-90). It is not uncommon for doctors near me to agree to see Medicaid patients on a very limited case by case basis (know the family well and take care of them, usually) and not even bother billing MCD. Again, they’re people and they need care, so it’s pretty easy to find space to give back a little to the community, but my office wouldn’t exist in its current form if they were the entire clientele, and they certainty are not paying based on cost of services rendered.


One last goofy example:
Up until age 18, they’ll pay for me to give a shot of antibiotics in the office. After age 18, they will not pay for the injection, and they won’t pay for the medicine. So if I have a patient with syphilis, I have to prescribe the penicillin G to a local pharmacy, the patient has to go pick it up, then I have to have them come back to get an injection, and I don’t get paid for my needles, syringe, or the time it takes to give it or watch them after to make sure there’s no reaction.
Posted by oblio
Member since Oct 2008
336 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:20 am to
We were told Obamacare was going to fix all of this. Also, the private market is plucked beyond belief. Premiums and deductibles have tripled with no end in sight.
Posted by meauxses
Member since Nov 2012
2699 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:26 am to
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Maybe promoting sexual freedom and promiscuity was a bad idea.


Or refusing to teach safe sex instead of abstinence.

Sex ed was an absolute joke.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4954 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:29 am to
Canjuns are smart, why work when you can live off the Government.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24938 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:30 am to
Trashy
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15015 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:36 am to
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We spend twice as much a year on healthcare as the next closest country and have worse results there’s no excuse for that.



The expectations of the citizens are extremely different. We have a very sedentary society that wants medicine to fix problems better cured by lifestyle changes, and we have a healthcare system that takes into account the patient satisfaction with care (like one that introduced pain as the 5th vital sign, blessed Purdue Pharma for OxyContin being marketed as “nonaddictive” and then basing part of how doctors and hospitals get paid based on how patients rate their own pain, quite literally inducing the opioid epidemic), so there’s a ton of frivolous spending to keep patients happy on things they don’t really need instead of addressing the actual problems that are the root cause of diabetes, obesity, heart disease, etc.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14046 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:42 am to
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But when 2/3 plus need a safety net, we have a society problem.
Newsflash, baw. Government exists to grow itself. More dependents = more gov growth opportunity. How do we not know this by now?

The fed gov incentivization of illegitimate births results in personal irresponsibility and is the number one issue with the shitty direction of the country. Cops, teachers, governors, better schools, midnight basketball, programs etc. can't fix it.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 8:51 am
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4071 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:49 am to
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What an absolute failure of the adults in our state,
Get the picture of how hard our teachers have it?
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:01 am to
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Do you really think an hour with a general practitioner is worth $375?

How about a 15 minute surgery costing $10,000? Literally glued a tendon back to the bone and charged me $10,000
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51702 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:03 am to
my sister left her husband and she's a "single mother" but is engaged to this guy and they purposefully have left the kids on Medicaid instead of adding the kids to her or the dads insurance. she's a school teacher and he's an electrician. Keep in mind her fiance pays for everything for her. i'm ashamed to say the least.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45229 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:08 am to
Are all parents that poor, no they have just learned how to work the system. Worked with a few guys that would intentionally work as contractors than for the company so they could keep their kids on it.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13733 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:10 am to
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The solution is to get a job with medical benefits. Many of us waited to get married and have families until we had health coverage through work.


Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50416 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:18 am to
Keep voting Democrat!! We are almost there!
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:22 am to
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Easily pay 20k? I think our family out of pocket max is 8k a year or so.


now add the monthly premiums to that.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24693 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:30 am to
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That’s 70%




U smart
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8235 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:42 am to
We reward poor people for reproducing offspring they can’t afford to raise
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