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North American horse tracks have been timing their races wrong.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:40 pm
Canterbury Park will be the first to do it right.
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Canterbury Park will become the first track in the modern history of North American racing to time Thoroughbred races from the break of the gate, eliminating “run-up” distances. The track announced the change in a press release Monday.
“Accuracy matters. This is a watershed moment for American racing,” said Thoroughbred Idea Foundation executive director Patrick Cummings. “For more than a century, we have endured inaccuracy in racing's most fundamental data points – time and distance. The inconsistencies created by running and timing races with run-up are too numerous to count, but this Is a much-needed first step towards embracing accuracy – for horseplayers, horse owners and any stakeholder in the sport.”
“Canterbury Park's management team is to be commended for being the first to take the lead on this and I am quite confident they will not be the last!”
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:40 pm to Jim Rockford
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The term “run-up” has been used to account for the untimed portion of Thoroughbred races which is the distance between where the starting gate is placed and the spot on the track which is the published race distance from the finish.
“In some dirt races in America – for example, one mile on dirt at Santa Anita or Del Mar, or six furlongs on dirt at Churchill Downs,” Cummings said, “horses run for 200 feet or more before they get to the point which is the published distance of the race. It is from that point when timing starts. In some turf races, it's even longer.”
That is amazing.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 10:50 pm to Jim Rockford
Im just taking the long shot odds and waiting for the hatted ladies
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:35 am to Jim Rockford
This will make trainers argue even more with clockers.. I say install some sort of motion detection or laser beam on each pole and the data can be registered to a computer. That way the times can be more accurate. Grant it, that idea would be for racing, not workouts, where there are horses all over the track.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 5:59 am to ChestRockwell
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Grant it, that idea would be for racing, not workouts
For all intensive purposes, but racing is a doggy-dog world.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:07 am to ChestRockwell
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Granite, that idea would be for racing, not workouts, where there are horses all over the track.
Fify
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:22 am to Twenty 49
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For all intensive purposes, but racing is a doggy-dog world.
“For all intents and purposes, but racing is a dog-eat-dog world”.
FIFY
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:25 am to Boudreauboudreaugoly
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FIFY
You missed the sarcasm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:43 am to Twenty 49
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For all intensive purposes, but racing is a doggy-dog world.
It's a mute point.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:43 am to Twenty 49
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For all intensive purposes, but racing is a doggy-dog world.
It's a mute point.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:49 am to Bestbank Tiger
Bunch of stuck up pre madonnas ITT
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:49 am to Bestbank Tiger
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It's a mute point.
It's a moo point. It's like a cow's opinion; it doesn't matter. It's moo."
Joey Tribbiani
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:50 am to Gee Grenouille
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Im just taking the long shot odds and waiting for the hatted ladies
I was at the MGM Grand earlier this year where they had an electronic table game for horse racing.
It was fun for a few sessions, I tried your betting strategy and bet on the ones with the highest odds and came up with some ridiculous odds for some long shots. I won one or two, but horse racing isn’t my thing.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:59 am to Jim Rockford
He’s been screaming about that on Twitter for years. Along with category 1 vs category 2 rules for disqualifications.
I don’t see this changing at any of the big tracks any time soon. We’d say goodbye to any new track records and then not have anything splashy to put on stallion ads. Not that that is a high bar set because maximum security’s said “never failed a drug test” when he trainer was caught on fbi wire tap talking about drugging him
that ad still cracks me up.
I don’t see this changing at any of the big tracks any time soon. We’d say goodbye to any new track records and then not have anything splashy to put on stallion ads. Not that that is a high bar set because maximum security’s said “never failed a drug test” when he trainer was caught on fbi wire tap talking about drugging him
that ad still cracks me up. 
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:06 am to Jim Rockford
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The term “run-up” has been used to account for the untimed portion of Thoroughbred races which is the distance between where the starting gate is placed and the spot on the track which is the published race distance from the finish.
“In some dirt races in America – for example, one mile on dirt at Santa Anita or Del Mar, or six furlongs on dirt at Churchill Downs,” Cummings said, “horses run for 200 feet or more before they get to the point which is the published distance of the race. It is from that point when timing starts. In some turf races, it's even longer.”
Had no idea this was a thing. Wow.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:02 pm to Twenty 49
Go sit next to a clocker in the mornings and see how many trainers are screaming at them, after the times are documented. Asmussen, and Amoss are notorious for that. Apparently, their stopwatches are always faster than the 3 people who are doing it for a living.
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