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re: Israel / Hamas in a biblical context - any content recs?
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:33 pm to Stitches
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:33 pm to Stitches
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The whore of Babylon was pagan Rome.
The whore of Babylon was the Temple in Jerusalem, which was bought and paid by Cyrus the Great (King of Babylon and Persian emperor). Throughout the NT the theme is the temple priests are corrupt and are “blind” and “lack knowledge” meaning they are not worshipping YHWH correctly. Jesus wreaks havoc in the temple and threatens to destroy it. Early Christians rejoiced in the temple’s destruction in 70CE by the Romans.
Think about it. Was Rome bought and paid for by Babylon? Did Rome owe allegiance to Babylon? No. But of course the second temple (including Herod’s refurbished version) was financed by Babylon and for about 300 years owed allegiance to Babylon.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 5:40 pm
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Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:34 pm to Diamondawg
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The Revelation is described, such as he would serve 3 1/2 years (one half of the Tribulation). Nero served 14 years. Pretty much anyone over the history of Christianity that were against us were labeled the Anti-Christ. Maybe he has come and gone or is yet to come. I don't know. I just try to live as prepared as I can be.
Actually if the fire and subsequent persecution of the early Christians (while he was building a massive palace to himself and golden statue of himself) was Nero essentially proclaiming himself God or the Antichrist, then his reign lasted about 3.5 years after that
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:36 pm to SirWinston
I’m not so sure the bible is going to provide any real clarity about the current
crisis.
crisis.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:38 pm to VOR
I agree but found the thought process to confirm it very satisfying.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:41 pm to CorchJay
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Josephus was prior to 321 and goes totally against what Catholics say was the first pope in Peter.
Josephus did not deny Peter was the first pope, or that there was a pope at all. He simply didn't write about that. Are you implying that anything he didn't expressly put down in writing means he thought that particular ideal to be false? If that's the case, he also didn't write about dispensationalism.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:09 pm to VOR
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I’m not so sure the bible is going to provide any real clarity about the current crisis.
You might be on to something. It’s almost as if the Bible’s prophecies have a record of failure.
One example that comes to mind that no one seems to talk about is the prophecy is Isaiah about how all the armies of the earth will come together to defeat Babylon, destroy the city of Babylon, slaughter every man of Babylon while the sun moon and stars go black and earthquakes occur, and the virgin girls are taken back to Judah as sex slaves. That never happened.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:19 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:What an ironic statement coming from a person who is wrong time and time again about the Bible. You're like a broken record.
It’s almost as if the Bible’s prophecies have a record of failure
1. Make a false claim about the Bible
2. Get refuted
3. Claim the refutation is made up out of thin air
4. Repeat false claim
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:30 pm to FooManChoo
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What an ironic statement coming from a person who is wrong time and time again about the Bible. You're like a broken record.
I’m beginning to think you are a bot.
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1. Make a false claim about the Bible
You conflate me making a false claim with the Bible making the false claim. In Isaiah 13, the prophecy is that Babylon will be totally destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah and never again inhabited. Babylon was the capital of the Persian empire for hundreds of years after (first) Isaiah was written. It wasn’t destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah. Read chapter 13, seriously.
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2. Get refuted
You never provide any evidence to counter my assertions. Just use your post as an example. It’s fine if you stick your head in the sand but you can’t say you refute me.
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3. Claim the refutation is made up out of thin air
You didn’t even make one up this time. “Nuh uh” isn’t even an attempt.
Isaiah 17 says Damascus will be destroyed and never inhabited again. Last I checked it’s still a city, with people living there.
Isaiah 19 claims the Nile River will dry up. Never happened.
Your brain must be the same consistency as the occupier of the Oval Office.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:42 pm to SirWinston
I see that the orgy of pornographic prejudiced Anti Roman Catholic Threads appear almost daily now.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:47 pm to CorchJay
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Catholics are Catholics… Christians are Christians. I’ll leave it at that
Many if not MOST Evangelical Christians DO NOT consider Roman Catholics to be Christians at all. Corch Jay is a perfect example.
Foo is another good example. He once posted on this board that he does not consider practicing Catholics to be a part of "The Body of Christ", which means, he doesn't consider them to be Christians.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:53 pm to Stitches
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Then again, only bad Catholics become Protestant.
This is quite accurate!
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:55 pm to Bayoutigre
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I think the catholic church is the whore of Babylon
You *THINK*, WOW! That is some very seriously convincing analysis here!
I am overwhelmed.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:01 pm to First Sergeant1
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I’m a preteibulationalist and premillennialist…I believe that is the right view taught within the scripture. There will be a rapture of the Church and it will kick off the tribulation period. It’s the next event on God’s prophetic timetable…and after the 7 years Jesus will return and then there is a literal 1000 year reign of Christ on earth.
Well, many of your brother Protestants say to you that YOUR Holy Spirit which guided you to believe that doctrine is WRONG and that THEIR Holy Spirit which guided THEM to believe differently is RIGHT!
So the Holy Spirit is making a real mess of things with all of these various Protestant theological doctrines.
Perhaps if Jesus founded One True Church which then would promulgate the Faith according to the preaching and teaching of that which Jesus handed on to the Apostles, then we would have one unifying scholarly body that could work with the Holy Spirit to publish a coherent Catechism.
WE HAVE THAT. It's the Catholic Catechism, and it is full of Bible verses to support its conclusions.
LINK
We know that the Holy Spirit can't promulgate conflicting Christian Doctrine, that's how we know that the Prots are wrong about being guided by the Holy Spirit. There ARE conflicting Prot doctrines and this thread proves it.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:03 pm to Champagne
I definitely don't feel that way, mate - especially if you're a based Catlic who hates the current Marxist twink and recognizes that Franny isn't even a believer.
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:45 am to SirWinston
Winston regardless of how evil the Pope is and there have been many very evil pope’s. They are infallible to Catholics. They are Christ on earth. They are equal to God on earth and in heaven. That comes from their own mouths (Popes). It’s anti christ and anti God. Blasphemous
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:56 am to CorchJay
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Winston regardless of how evil the Pope is and there have been many very evil pope’s. They are infallible to Catholics.
This is false. Popes are not infallible, unless they are clarifying a matter of faith and morals via ex cathedra, which is so rare in church history that I can count ex cathedra statements almost on one hand.
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They are Christ on earth. They are equal to God on earth and in heaven. That comes from their own mouths (Popes).
Well, as I just stated, Popes are not infallible.
As I stated in the previous thread with you, the guy who allegedly claimed that Pope Pius said this actually died 5 years before Pope Pius became Pope Pius. So, obviously this is fake news.
SirWinston, CorchJay makes a lot of claims about what Catholics believe, and unfortunately, he's intentionally ignorant on what the church actually teaches. Granted, he also gets basic facts of history completely wrong as well. I believe "obtuse" is the word.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 6:15 am
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:58 am to CorchJay
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CorchJay
You’re not a very smart person.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
Actually I am. But thanks
Posted on 10/15/23 at 1:55 pm to Champagne
So since you’re Catholic, you think you’re right? You probably think you can work your way to heaven also… you probably also think what the pope says is more authoritative than scripture and that we are to pray to Mary and have to go through a man for confession…should I keep going with all the false heretical teachings of the Catholic church?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:20 pm to Champagne
quote:I don't know many Evangelicals I don't think so don't what they say or believe. I certainly believe Catholics to be Christian, however I doubt I could compare and contrast all of the differences we share as Methodists with those of Catholics. I think y'all practice more sacraments than we and I have a problem with putting Mary in such high esteem and I really have a problem with the Eucharist being considered "transubstantiation". That's hard for me to swallow (pun intended).
Many if not MOST Evangelical Christians DO NOT consider Roman Catholics to be Christians at all.
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