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Does it seem like the death of Americans has been kinda glossed over?

Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3453 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:28 pm
27 Americans were killed in the Hamas attacks and 14 are still missing. There was a time in American history where if you harmed the hair of an American, no matter where that American might be, we personally made sure you paid for it.

When an American was murdered by terrorists on the Achille Lauro cruise ship off the coast of Egypt in 1985, US fighter jets forced the plane carrying the hijackers out of the sky in order to bring those responsible to justice.

The terrorist bombing of a disco in Berlin which killed 2 Americans in 1986 resulted in the bombing of Libya ten days later.

I know we are aiding Israel in their efforts following this attack, but it seems like there was a time where we very much wanted our pound of flesh if you harmed an American.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:29 pm to
Biden enters the chat..
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23007 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:30 pm to
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1985

quote:

1986


Look at who was President of the United States then compared to who we have now.
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
6274 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:30 pm to
It bothers me we aren’t bombing Gaza. They killed Americans. Frick that place. Entire strip would be a parking lot with Reagan as president.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:30 pm to
Most of these are dual citizens not harmless Americans targeted for being Americans or American property or govt being attacked in a country because of proximity.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:32 pm to
stolen elections often have bad consequences.

there was a time, where you knew there was a heavy price to be paid if you harmed an American.

Posted by HoopyD
Member since Nov 2004
3453 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
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not harmless Americans


umm, what? Are you saying they deserved it in some way?
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
4538 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:36 pm to
We have to pay 6 billion for 5 prisoners, and swapped an arms dealer for a lesbian pot smoking women’s bball player.

You think other countries fear the United States? They are laughing at us
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:41 pm to
Saying unfortunately it was collateral and why should the US go to war over 30 people? Do you realize how many innocents the US military has killed in attacks that were collateral or accidental?

I get the frustration but you know nothing about these people, hell they could have been born here lived here for a few months and spent their whole lives in other countries but have citizenship.

Let’s not go full crazy not even a week after this happening. Israel is already taking care of business so I don’t understand what else needs to be done.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42126 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:42 pm to
ABC led with the American deaths this morning.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:43 pm to
Of course the media will because it gets them views. “If it bleeds it leads”.

Should other countries attack us when their citizens get killed here?
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:44 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:49 pm to
Many Israelis hold dual citizenship. I’m not questioning anyone’s “American-ness,” just stating it’s not rare to see many Israelis also described as citizens of other countries.

Israel’s Law of Return offers free second citizenship, stating Jews anywhere in the world have the unrestricted right to immigrate to Israel and become Israeli citizens.

Many of those listed as Americans are now Israelis who hold dual citizenship to another country. That said, all US citizens are entitled to and should receive protection from the US government.


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:50 pm to
Forgive the swerve but your topic reminded me of a video I watched about 10 years ago. It was produced by a young American Jewish guy who moved to Israel and loved baseball.
He invited American amateur baseball players he knew to come over for a tournament against an Israeli team of players.

He got a handful of Americans to come over and play and the video was about what a wonderful time they had. BUT, he lamented that so many of his American baseball friends refused saying 'It's too dangerous to go there.'
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8955 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:51 pm to
Yes. In the Eighties, if you pissed off President Reagan; you just shite your pants.
Now, President Biden, in his Eighties, shits his pants.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:52 pm to
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That said, all US citizens are entitled to and should receive protection from the US government


Says who? They may think they are entitled and perhaps that’s the problem.

Do you think other nations should have full access to their citizens when they frick up here?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Says who? They may think they are entitled and perhaps that’s the problem.

US Code.
Particularly Equitable Treatment by United States of Its Citizens Living Abroad (see CHAPTER 23—PROTECTION OF CITIZENS ABROAD).

LINK ]Protecting U.S. Citizens at Home and Abroad - US State Department
quote:

Abroad, we make the safety and security of our citizens our top priority by ensuring Americans have the right information and providing consular assistance.


quote:

Do you think other nations should have full access to their citizens when they frick up here?

I don’t really have an opinion on it.
Fact is other countries have different procedures and requirements than does the United States.
If you’re a US citizen living abroad or traveling for a short or extended period, you’re protected.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:07 pm to
Providing assistance doesn’t mean it’s absolute. Also the sentence before that says they ensure the defense of our borders
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12790 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:09 pm to
First of all, most of these Americans have prolly gone through the Aliyah process and have dual citizenship.

That said, you are correct that this is yet more disappearing by our state media lackey propagandists…
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:10 pm to
I didn’t say I agreed with it; just saying it’s the law, as written.
I certainly won’t defend the US government for anything it does.
They’re dead to me.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
19343 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:10 pm to
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27 Americans

Equivalent to 0.9 Israelis
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