re: Loki Season 2: Season Long Discussion Thread

6 episodes to conclude on Nov 9, which also happens to coincide with release night for The Marvels.

Episode 3 is one of the best in any Disney+ series yet imo. The tension was so thick the whole time, and things just kept getting wackier and crazier. I like how each take on a Kang variant is so different.

Also, Miss Minutes is crazy and evil which is not surprising at all. Miss Minutes being horny too… I gotta tell ya, I didn’t see that one coming.

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Miss Minutes is crazy and evil which is not surprising at all. Miss Minutes being horny too… I gotta tell ya, I didn’t see that one coming.

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Just picture Tara Strong IRL, and it gets a lot easier

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It sucks that Jonathan Majors is probably a terrible human being, but dammit he is such a good

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I really hope they don’t have to recast him. He’s been incredible as Kang

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Some article from ScreenRant or another online source written by some member of the digital intelligentsia who huffs their own farts ended up in my news feed and they were signing the blues about how they felt Victor Timely was "practically unwatchable."

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I wonder if that reviewer has ever met a person w/a stutter b/c he sounds almost exactly like a guy I've known for years.

Completely agree but man I'm glad they saved all their budget for this show. It is spectacular.

Going forward the thing to do with Marvel is just enjoy the IPs you enjoy. I loved Loki 1 and so far 2 has immense potential. Moon Knight and honestly I just love Majors as Kang. His range is absurd.

Obviously I'm gonna watch any and every Spider-Man movie til I die but since Marvel has been missing on other titles I don't give a shite about, Black Widow, Eternals, Secre Wars, etc, I'll just watch ones that I enjoy because on their good days, Marvel Studios can whip something amazing out.

Yeah I have friends who aren’t watching because of fatigue

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Do you think the variant he who remains showed harnessing alioth in this clip from the season 1 finale is victor timely?

And that device timely retrieved at the end of season 2 episode 3 is the device that harnesses alioth?

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My confusion is thus:

Victor Timely was born in the late 19th century.

But when He Who Remains explained his history to Loki and Sylvie at the end of Season 1, he explainted that all of the other Kang variant's were form the 31st Century.

In the comics, Kang is from the 31st Century and Victor Timely is an alter ego of his in the 19th Century

So how can Victor Timely be a variant if he's from the 19th century?

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I don't know the comics storyline, but just spitballing here a bit:

Emergency backup plan by one of the more thoughtful and altruistic variants (probably He Who Remains)...

Kang is ALWAYS brilliant in any timeline, and is the key to this problem. He always figures out the alternate universe issue and how to cross the boundaries. He's the one you need.

Therefore, during the Kang Wars, you go to one of the defeated universes, go back in time there and abduct the infant Kang before you prune that timeline. You then place him in 19th Century Earth on your timeline universe.
Amazing period, tons of scientific study and research, in a pure sense. Edison, Einstein, Tesla, etc all going on about the same era. Victor Timely will grow safely there and make the same theory he did in the 31st Century. However, the state of technology will be such that he can't conduct actual experiments, thus can't achieve the same breakthrough. Edison's well-oiled political machine will win out, and like Tesla, Victor Timely will fade into obscurity, another brilliant and possibly mad scientist who ultimately wasn't the driving force behind advancements. He may or may not be remembered, because it was all crazy theories, no substance. He will safely live out his existence, and pass away unnoticed.

Any later and he poses a risk by having too much access to tech to construct his devices, any earlier and he isn't exposed to the other knowledge to build his own theories on.
Taken as an infant- you are assuming all Kangs are essentially the same to start, and shaped by the cultures they grow up in. And perhaps this one was one of the more benign or gentler Kangs anyway, just one that didn't win out.
Anyway, he grows without influence of malice, so he's a good person in general.

You leave him there as a "break glass in case of emergency" option, as displayed in this show. In the event you win the Kang Wars (as He Who Remains did), but get killed off in another way (as by Sylvie, for example): you leave instructions to go retrieve Victor Timely. He's been prepped and groomed (they saw to that by leaving him the TVA Handbook), so he 'WILL UNDERSTAND', although until that moment he only does at a theoretical level. Once he's brought to the TVA, after acclimating physically, he then assumes the same role He Who Remains did, preserving the sacred timeline (ie the one he's present in), and pruning the others so no other Kangs emerge.
*Since there's one Victor Timely, there would be others; and you just don't know what will happen.*

As Loki speculated on a past episode, killing He Who Remains was a mistake that opened the path for other Kangs, many of which are more sinister.

I wonder- Renslayer being a variant Black woman... could she be a variant of the woman that raised Timely? She seems to have a bit of a mama-bear instinct, and was placed in a high position. She might be the protector of Timely.
That might be the 'secret' that Miss Minutes hints at.

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Can anyone list out the Kang Variants we’ve seen so far in the MCU?

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If you count the Quantumania postcredit scene, we've seen thousands of them.

Outside of that, we've seen He Who Remains, Kang and Victor Timely.

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I just love Majors as Kang. His range is absurd.

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He is perfect for this role/roles. So far, he has knocked it out of the park in giving each variant their own unique qualities.