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Basic mortgage rate question

Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17620 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:16 am
Interest rates nationally are hovering around 8%

I am thinking of buying a home soon.

Can you get that 8% reduced with a sparkling credit score and significant down payment? Or will it always be around 8%?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46282 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:20 am to
I think 8% is for the sparking credit score and it goes up from there
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71557 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:27 am to
On freddie mac's website, average 30 year last week was 7.31%.

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Thats likely with a good credit score, "down payment" wont affect rate. You can buy points down with extra money up front on the loan itself. Most folks would say dont do that, just refinance when rates ultimately go back down. Could refinance every 1-2% rates drop over time.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77833 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:52 am to
quote:

thinking of buying a home soon.


With these current interest rates?
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8249 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:55 am to
quote:

You can buy points down with extra money up front on the loan itself. Most folks would say dont do that, just refinance when rates ultimately go back down. Could refinance every 1-2% rates drop over time.



Just have to do the math on if it makes sense financially.

Points cost / monthly savings = break even period in months.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82058 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:06 am to
Down payment won't affect the rate. Sparkling credit will probably be in the mid 7s right now.

You can pay a flat fee up front to buy down your rate - it is call "points". You will have to math out if buying points makes sense in the long run based upon how much it saves you in interest. It also doesn't make much sense to buy down the rate if you don't plan on staying in the house for a while.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93850 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:24 am to
Get a 3/1 buydown credit from the seller or your agent

Rates at 8 you pay at a 5,6,7 the first 3yrs

Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21932 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:50 am to
Marry the house. Date the rate
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4024 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:02 am to
First, get the best deal on the house. While interest rates hurt, when and if they come down you can refi. With the current housing situation, If rates come down, home price will go up.
People keep doomcasting like this is 2008 but they don't know how the inventory crisis will effect the market. There are a lot of people sitting on the sidelines waiting on rates to come down. When and if they do, there will be a lot of buyers that will drive pricing up.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37610 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:13 pm to
Red River Bank and specifically their Private Banking department still has a rate in the 6’s.
I asked today as a matter of fact.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6018 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

thinking of buying a home soon.


With these current interest rates?



Let's be honest, we're fricked either way. Millions of people are sitting on the sidelines and not moving/buying houses due to the rates. We still have a shortage of houses compared to the amount of folks who need housing. Once those rates drop a couple points, all those sideline sitters will jump back into the game. Prices will go through the roof and you're just as fricked as if you would've bought at the higher rate.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4649 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Let's be honest, we're fricked either way. Millions of people are sitting on the sidelines and not moving/buying houses due to the rates. We still have a shortage of houses compared to the amount of folks who need housing. Once those rates drop a couple points, all those sideline sitters will jump back into the game. Prices will go through the roof and you're just as fricked as if you would've bought at the higher rate.


Dead arse on right here.

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82058 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

While interest rates hurt, when and if they come down you can refi.
Relying on "refinancing when rates go down" is a very poor plan of action. Rates may not go down for a decade. Don't overextend yourself on a house in hopes you can refi in a year or two
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1834 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Interest rates nationally are hovering around 8%
ignificant down payment?


Bought a house in April, did a jumbo with Chase, was going to put 35% down and they came back and actually offered a lower rate by only putting 25% down.
Posted by down time
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Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Prices will go through the roof


We don't know that for sure. Not like 2021.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6018 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 5:27 pm to
Actually we kinda do. You have more people who want houses now than you have housing available. That’s why the prices haven’t crashed because supply and demand is keeping the prices elevated. What’s going to happen when you add millions of buyers to this scenario? Prices are going to spike again because you still have a supply issue but you’re adding an assload more demand.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18749 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:09 pm to
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Interest rates nationally are hovering around 8% ignificant down payment? Bought a house in April, did a jumbo with Chase, was going to put 35% down and they came back and actually offered a lower rate by only putting 25% down.


Man I’m looking at financing $350,000 for a home in Houston and Zillow is telling me $4,200 a month. Couldn’t imagine a jumbo loan at these rates.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:03 pm to
Really going to depend on where you're buying too.

If you can buy a new construction with a builder who is nearing the end of their development, they'll usually offer a low interest rate (relatively speaking) as an incentive to use their lender.

Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47470 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

With these current interest rates?

High interest rates suppress the price of the house. Once rates go down, you can refinance and you’re paying a low rate on a suppressed purchase price.

Have to be able to swing it obviously
Posted by down time
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Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:46 pm to
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prices haven’t crashed


There are Austin 2021/22 buyers in six figure loss right now. Every listed home is 3 times more likely to have a price reduction than an executed contract.

Resale homes are priced well above new build cost in many counties. Who would buy a 1990 home when a builder can beat the price and rate?

Don't the millions of buyers need to sell their home first?

Now could be a good time to snag a nice lot.



This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 9:59 pm
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