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NIL was a terrible idea

Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:32 pm
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:32 pm
Too bad that genie will never go back in the bottle. Thank God for high school sports.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
76556 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:34 pm to
Actually, it’s created much needed parity in the sport.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59930 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Thank God for high school sports.


States are all legalizing NIL for HS sports too my guy.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
37781 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:35 pm to
No it wasn't. There's no reason someone famous like Caleb Williams shouldn't be allowed to make money doing commercials for big brands like Dr. Pepper, Wendy's etc.

The issue is the NCAA was so feckless and worthless that they never even tried to create a regulatory framework and now guys doing commercials is the same as someone getting paid to sign with a school by a fake charity collective.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
76556 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:38 pm to
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Thank God for high school sports.


Have fun watching a shitty product
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Too bad that genie will never go back in the bottle. Thank God for high school sports.


You are confusing pay for play and NIL. They are used as the same but 1 is legal and 1 technically isn't. The issue is the NCAA is powerless and everyone uses NIL for P4P. So we have a bunch of kids who are paid and don't play hard. Instead of getting some of their jersey sells or able to do a commercial if the market creates the opportunity for them.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23030 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:40 pm to
The value of an undergraduate diploma has diminished too much to think it's a worthwhile return for 2-4 years of the work these football players put in. That wasn't always the case, but it is now. They should be compensated.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
76556 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:41 pm to
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That wasn't always the case, but it is now.


That stopped being the case in the early 90’s
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117115 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:41 pm to
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Parity


Where?
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Where?


The power players have changed to corporate NIL donations instead of individual under the table payers. This shift is seen as parity.

So some of the old power houses have less talent and some of the 2nd tier powers are now top tier powers. The issue is the middle to bottom tier powers are farther behind the top tier powers.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
25002 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:44 pm to
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undergraduate diploma has diminished too much to think it's a worthwhile return


Props for the unique take. Haven’t thought of that. Still, for football, NIL is 100% bribes for player to sign with, or stay with, team.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117115 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:44 pm to
Cool

And your national champion in 2023 will be either Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, etc
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
76556 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:44 pm to
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Where?


Look no further than what Alabama is going through right now
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:45 pm to
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And your national champion in 2023 will be either Michigan, Ohio State, Georgia, etc


Let the NIL 4 year cycle complete and the power players will be USC, Texas, A&M, Miami. Ohio St, Michigan, Georgia, Bama will still be there but be 2nd tier and not as talented.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60874 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:45 pm to
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NIL was a terrible idea
We don't have NIL
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117115 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:46 pm to
Are you trying to say Ole Miss is going to become a power

Not following you
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:48 pm to
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Are you trying to say Ole Miss is going to become a power

Not following you



No I'm saying that the power players at the top are changing but the gap to the middle of the pack to bottom is growing. Some people see that as parity because Alabama is getting worse but they are just not as powerful in the NIL world as they were in the under the table world.

Their warchest is a lot less in comparison to other schools who now will be invested now that it is legal.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17097 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:48 pm to
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NIL was a terrible idea


Idea was not bad, the execution has been terrible.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:50 pm to
I think eventually the genie might go back in the bottle after Jaden Rashada and the Ohio State news of kids demanding 5 stacks just to visit. It’ll get worse before it gets better unfortunately
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
12438 posts
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:50 pm to
I think the idea of NIL was well intentioned. If companies are making millions selling a player’s jersey etc, the players should be able to make some money off of that. The problem is now you have kids getting straight up signing bonuses to play for schools under the guise of “NIL”. It’s not, it’s just paying recruits to commit and sign.
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