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Mental toughness won’t solve LSU’s problems in the red zone

Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:42 am
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:42 am
Les Miles’ teams were all mentally tough and his players knew how to execute plays even punt returns but Miles was still fired!

The point I hope Kelly realizes is that lack of mental toughness was only half his team’s problem. Lack of creativity by LSU’s offense and defense in the red zone was the other half of the problem. Does it really matter if an offense drives down the field, when you can still demoralize a team if you can keep denying them points in the red zone.


This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 11:30 am
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31033 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:23 am to
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Les Miles’ teams were all mentally tough and his players knew how to execute plays


While I tend to agree with this, 1/9 suggests something different. Miles was fired because he didn’t adapt, particularly on the offensive side of the ball.

In any event, there was a myriad of reasons for the loss to FSU. It wasn’t one particular thing. It’s been discussed.

Let’s see how the coaches adjust and go from there. If nothing changes, then I’ll be concerned.

All we can do is see what happens. Will Rogers is a good QB.

One game at a time.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4662 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:47 am to
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Mental toughness won’t solve LSU’s problems in the red zone
Nope, but changing some offensive linemen could.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9940 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 6:26 am to
They got their asses handed to them on both sides of the line, it is just that simple. They won't see offensive and defensive lines like that again until they face Bama. It will make them look better for a while. Their conditioning in the second half was very suspect too.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30839 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:05 am to
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Les Miles’ teams were all mentally tough and his players knew how to execute plays even punt returns but Miles was still fired!




What you do after an embarrassing loss is the real barometer of mental toughness, IMO. Not really Grambling but how the team performs vs Moo State and Arkansas will tell us more about mental toughness.
Posted by Milosh
Behind a Computer Screen
Member since Aug 2007
953 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:06 am to
That's the issue I had. It's not that we lost, it's how we lost.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39729 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:14 am to
Les was fired for letting the top program in the nation descend to a middle of the pack SEC team. He was fired for turning LSU into an 8-4 team his last few years.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:20 am to
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What you do after an embarrassing loss is the real barometer of mental toughness, IMO


True! The point I hope Kelly realizes is that lack of mental toughness was only half the problem. Lack of creativity by LSU’s offense and defense in the red zone was the other half of the problem. Does it really matter if an offense drives down the field, when you can still demoralize a team if you can keep denying them points in the red zone.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12267 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:30 am to
Last year and against FSU, play calling the red zone was terrible.
Of course, if you are dominating on he OL, you can just impose your will on the defense. But against good teams, you have to outcoach your adversary in the red zone. We lose that battle with uncomfortable frequency.
Kelly is going to have to deal with this and soon.
Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6096 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:07 pm to
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Last year and against FSU, play calling the red zone was terrible. Of course, if you are dominating on he OL, you can just impose your will on the defense. But against good teams, you have to outcoach your adversary in the red zone. We lose that battle with uncomfortable frequency. Kelly is going to have to deal with this and soon.


But will he? We joked about BBQ buddies with Les and Ed, but our OC is the biggest bbq buddy yet.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84894 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Mental toughness won’t solve LSU’s problems in the red zone


Wrong. Hard yards are 50% if not more mental
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:44 pm to
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But will he? We joked about BBQ buddies with Les and Ed, but our OC is the biggest bbq buddy yet.


There’s going to be a barbecue from the fan base if we keep seeing what we saw Sunday
Posted by caleb07
Member since Dec 2018
760 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:55 pm to
Miles was the worse LSU coach ever.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10097 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:05 pm to
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Miles was the worse LSU coach ever.
Brilliance right here.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26335 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Miles was the worse LSU coach ever.


Lol, not even close to the worst ever.

Much closer to being the best ever than he is from being the worst ever.

Miles is solidly in the top 3/4 that the program has ever had.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:21 pm to
Oh yeah, thats what we need. Miles to teach someone about playcalling creativity.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Oh yeah, thats what we need. Miles to teach someone about playcalling creativity.


Kelly needs to watch LSU vs Fla and see how many times Miles’ team was successful at getting a first down.
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