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ND fanbase warnings…..
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:08 am
Still early for the BK era but remember what the ND fanbase warned us about? Not an elite recruiter, mishandles qb situations, teams not prepared in big games, not enough emphasis on special teams. The 3 game UF, OM, and BAMA span last year has been the anomaly so far. Outscored 133-77 in last 3 losses. A lot remains to be seen but can’t ignore what has already happened also. Must say last night was first real concern moment for me and after watching his presser even more so. Time will tell…….
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:10 am to DIGGY
We were sunshine pumping BK and the alignment. We were fools
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:10 am to DIGGY
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Still early for the BK era but remember what the ND fanbase warned us about?
we don't have any say so in those decisions, baw, they should have been forwarded to Woody
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Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:10 am to DIGGY
They also think the guy who lost to Marshall and Stanford is the second coming of Christ.
I’m not interested in the scorned lovers opinion on their ex.
I’m not interested in the scorned lovers opinion on their ex.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:12 am to DIGGY
Why weren’t those fans demanding he get fired…he left them for us and they are a woman scorned fan base
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:12 am to DIGGY
ND was never an impressive team under BK although they got W’s
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:15 am to DIGGY
He was 54-9 there his last 5 years and if you’re old enough to remember he rebuilt their program from national joke to national contender.
He was 8-5 his first 2 years there then broke through year 3. Won almost 80% of his games from year 3 on.
He was 8-5 his first 2 years there then broke through year 3. Won almost 80% of his games from year 3 on.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:22 am to DIGGY
They also warned us he couldn’t beat Bama, and yet he did just that already in Year 1.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:27 am to DIGGY
I was concerned after the Tenn loss last year and the idiotic 4th down calls one being on our side of the field that gave them a score before half. The concerns are now back. Start kicking fricking fgs
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:27 am to DIGGY
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The 3 game UF, OM, and BAMA span last year has been the anomaly so far.
How is that an anomaly IF IT WAS HIS FIRST SEASON.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:53 am to DIGGY
quote:Last years class was #6 and currently they are sitting at #8.
Not an elite recruiter
Posted on 9/4/23 at 10:54 am to DIGGY
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Not an elite recruiter
LSU had a top-5 recruiting class lolol
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:14 pm to DIGGY
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Not an elite recruiter, mishandles qb situations, teams not prepared in big games, not enough emphasis on special teams.
I didn’t watch a lot of ND football games so overall special teams aspect is hard to speak to; but the big games part and qb part were obvious.
As far as recruiting ND recruits itself for most part. Staff has to win some battles against other top schools and pick some diamonds in the rough. I did not see him improve recruiting more than it would have done with any coach.
He pushed Denbrooke aside as coordinator after one year as coordinator at ND with “promotion” to AHC, and when Denbrooke’s replacement left he really wasn’t even considered again for OC position which is why he took OC position at Cincinnati. Hiring him at LSU was a sign. He is not horrible overall, but he is just running Kelly’s offense and doing OC admin work during the week. Kelly doesn’t want a coach better than him running the offense, and he doesn’t want to learn a new offense to be hands on like he wants to be with the offense. In that regard he is like Les.
Kelly also seemed to have a chip on shoulder at ND which seems to have disappeared with the $100 million guaranteed contract. He seems way too comfortable just cashing in check now.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:25 pm to DIGGY
I'm getting Les Miles vibes from what BK is putting out there. We need to field the QB who makes those around him better. Unfortunately, that excludes JD
Nussmeier fits the mold we're looking for. Being able to read a defense and get the ball out of his hands quickly ought to be a deciding factor to transition from what we have with JD because we know exactly what we get with him and we have already peaked with his play. I'm tired of the inconsistency and unknowns we get with him under center. Not only that, but defenses know how to attack him and make him one dimensional.
Nussmeier fits the mold we're looking for. Being able to read a defense and get the ball out of his hands quickly ought to be a deciding factor to transition from what we have with JD because we know exactly what we get with him and we have already peaked with his play. I'm tired of the inconsistency and unknowns we get with him under center. Not only that, but defenses know how to attack him and make him one dimensional.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:26 pm to DIGGY
Meh. ND fans weren’t so vocal about those things when he was there. I wouldn’t put too much stock into what they’re saying now.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:28 pm to DIGGY
Yup. everything ND fans said turned out to be true. I'm off the BK train and yes, I'm a BK hater now so frick the alignment.
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:29 pm to DIGGY
fell on deaf ears
spending 100 mil on a coach who hasn’t got the accolades to warrant such a big pay raise
to go to the strongest conference where majority of the teams spend millions on recruiting and their coaching staff spelled trouble from the start
spending 100 mil on a coach who hasn’t got the accolades to warrant such a big pay raise
to go to the strongest conference where majority of the teams spend millions on recruiting and their coaching staff spelled trouble from the start
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:40 pm to DIGGY
As an ND grad who has many LSU friends, I have had numerous discussions about BK, and warned my friends when he was hired not to be overly optimistic. Why? While Brian Kelly is a great program builder who understands the landscape of college football and knows what it takes to win, he is not always the best at execution and a lot of his game-day coaching is questionable at best. Here are a few observations from the commentary in this thread as well as from last night's games.
1. For those worried about recruiting, relax. Yes, Kelly is a bit of lazy recruiter, but he is competent enough to select assistants who are tireless recruiters. You will get talent.
2. What BK does with that talent that is recruited is a bigger question. While at ND, BK and his staff had difficulty developing the talent that they recruited at most positions other than OL, and particularly, at QB. Some would say that almost all QBs at ND regressed...I think otherwise. I don't think the coaching staff challenged them to run new stuff, so that there was a lot of film on ND's playbook for each QB, allowing opposing defenses to be better prepared with each game.
3. Halftime and in-game adjustments are a problem, halftime because there typically are not significant adjustments and in-game because the staff reacts too slowly. Against most great coaches, BK will lose the halftime adjustment battle. I'm not saying that Norvell is a great coach, but he and his staff schooled the BK staff last night. If it was not obvious to you, you probably should be watching Netflix instead of football.
4. Special teams are not special. From sources inside the ND program, there were reports that special teams was given little to no practice time during both the pre-season the season.
5. BK does not seem to understand momentum, and his stubbornness often works against him in critical game decisions. Sometimes it's better to take the points. That said, I agreed with the decision to go for it both times last night, but the play calls were less than ideal. If you're gonna go for it, you should have some idea of how to get it.
A lot of ND fans were jaded by Kelly's departure. He did really great things for our program, but he was not beloved by many while he was there. As I have said to my LSU friends, you may get lucky and have a great season, but for the most part, you should expect his teams to lay a few eggs. Unfortunately, last night was an egg. Hopefully, that's the last one of the season.
1. For those worried about recruiting, relax. Yes, Kelly is a bit of lazy recruiter, but he is competent enough to select assistants who are tireless recruiters. You will get talent.
2. What BK does with that talent that is recruited is a bigger question. While at ND, BK and his staff had difficulty developing the talent that they recruited at most positions other than OL, and particularly, at QB. Some would say that almost all QBs at ND regressed...I think otherwise. I don't think the coaching staff challenged them to run new stuff, so that there was a lot of film on ND's playbook for each QB, allowing opposing defenses to be better prepared with each game.
3. Halftime and in-game adjustments are a problem, halftime because there typically are not significant adjustments and in-game because the staff reacts too slowly. Against most great coaches, BK will lose the halftime adjustment battle. I'm not saying that Norvell is a great coach, but he and his staff schooled the BK staff last night. If it was not obvious to you, you probably should be watching Netflix instead of football.
4. Special teams are not special. From sources inside the ND program, there were reports that special teams was given little to no practice time during both the pre-season the season.
5. BK does not seem to understand momentum, and his stubbornness often works against him in critical game decisions. Sometimes it's better to take the points. That said, I agreed with the decision to go for it both times last night, but the play calls were less than ideal. If you're gonna go for it, you should have some idea of how to get it.
A lot of ND fans were jaded by Kelly's departure. He did really great things for our program, but he was not beloved by many while he was there. As I have said to my LSU friends, you may get lucky and have a great season, but for the most part, you should expect his teams to lay a few eggs. Unfortunately, last night was an egg. Hopefully, that's the last one of the season.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 9/4/23 at 12:43 pm to DIGGY
It’s hard to recruit at ND. It’s not the job it was in the 70s and 80s. Brian Kelly did a great job at ND.
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