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What's your strategy to short the market?

Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:00 pm
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16167 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:00 pm
I see there's ETFs but they rebalance daily so that seems tricky and too risky. What's the best way to get a long term short strategy over 1 to 3 months? A basket of 10 stocks or so. Obviously never did options before.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42036 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:22 pm to
Stocks only go up why would I short
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5072 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

What's your strategy to short the market?


You could probably just short whatever the 'hot' stock is around here.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:32 pm to
TSLY is a Tesla short covered call. It’s been paying a 60% return but you are capped to 5% of upside. If you think Tesla drops on a market pullback then it may be of interest. This company YieldMax has similar products for the other big tech companies.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30416 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:52 pm to
Why?

Just buy VTSAX and wait 20 years and you'll be set.

Everyone is always trying to get too cute with things
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5771 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

Just buy VTSAX and wait 20 years and you'll be set.

Everyone is always trying to get too cute with things


Not everyone is a passive investor.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5771 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Obviously never did options before.



Nothing beats options if you want to go short. A 4%-8% move in the underlying can get you a 50%-100% return. This is defined risk. They do take some effort to learn.
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
4328 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:24 pm to
SQQQ
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23512 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:34 pm to
Read the Options Thread.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:30 pm to
SQQQ
NVDS-inverse Nvidia
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18540 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Just buy VTSAX and wait 20 years and you'll be set.

And the dollars you have will buy 50% of what it will buy today.
Posted by Spoonbilla
Member since Aug 2022
874 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:22 pm to
BREAKING ??:

Michael Burry just shorted the market with $1.6B

Bought $890M of $SPY Puts
Bought $740M of $QQQ Puts

This now makes up 93% of his entire portfolio

Look out below

LINK

Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30416 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

And the dollars you have will buy 50% of what it will buy today.


Which will still be way more than the dollars you'll lose trying to outsmart the stock market
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