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Hold up...So you guys think Trump is controlled by the establishment but Ron wont be?

Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31628 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:13 pm
And...Trump wastes 40 mil defending himself against the establishment is what?

Some sort of scheme because he's with them?

Yet, you all claim he's broke and has no chance because he has to spend this money, but they want him to run against Biden because he will lose anyway?

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50652 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:14 pm to
You ask lots and lots of questions but never seem to have any answers.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19800 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:16 pm to
Is there a difference between being controlled or simply listening to all sides before making a decision?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31628 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:18 pm to
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You ask lots and lots of questions but never seem to have any answers.



You are the one supporting a person that has never held the office. Why?

Trump has faults that most of have acknowledged, but we had the most prosperous time ever under him until the pandemic. I'm sure you will pivot to Faucci now.

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5073 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:19 pm to
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So you guys think Trump is controlled by the establishment but Ron wont be


Many of Trump's policies are establishment. He is a big government, big spending RINO.

Is he "controlled" by the establishment...no.

Is DeSantis "controlled" by the establishment....that is also a no.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:21 pm to
I think the idea behind questions is that one party asks the question, then a separate party provides an answer. It really wouldn’t make sense for someone to ask the question and also give the answer. That’s basically multiple personality disorder.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31628 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:23 pm to
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Is he "controlled" by the establishment...no.

Is DeSantis "controlled" by the establishment....that is also a no.



So you agree that Trump is not part of the establishment?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22205 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:25 pm to
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Some sort of scheme because he's with them?


Someone has made this claim? Or are you just sky screaming?
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5073 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:30 pm to
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So you agree that Trump is not part of the establishment?




Just saying that they don't "control" him. But Trump does have a lot of establishment policies. So that makes him more of an "establishment" politician than someone like DeSantis.

Read what a statist is. Trump is a statist.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:32 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31628 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:32 pm to
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Someone has made this claim?


The Ron guys all claim he is an establishment RINO.

Why would they prosecute one of their own and make him spend 40 mil of campaign funds if they want his as a opponent in the election?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31628 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Trump is a statist.


How has Trump ever exhibited this?

By cutting environmental regulations and leaving COVID up to the states?

Reducing Taxes?
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162295 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:38 pm to
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Hold up...So you guys think Trump is controlled by the establishment but Ron wont be?

Exactly who is making this argument again?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116958 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:39 pm to
Name all of the Presidents that spent more than Trump in 4 years.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31628 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:41 pm to
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Exactly who is making this argument again?



Have you been paying attention to the board?

There are several threads claiming Trump is part of the establishment and a RINO.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5073 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:41 pm to
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How has Trump ever exhibited this?


I just gave you an example today. Trump bailed out Yellow Freight in 2020. Some one who is close to being an "anti-statist", like Rand Paul, would have let Yellow Freight fail.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:42 pm
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5073 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:49 pm to
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There are several threads claiming Trump is part of the establishment and a RINO.


All you have to do is accept the fact Trump is a moderate. Trump is closer to Mitt Romney and Susan Collins than he is to Rand Paul. Some of your fellow MAGA friends have already accepted this.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 9:50 pm
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5224 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:57 pm to
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RINO


He is a RINO

-He spent like a drunken sailor while in office despite saying he’d fix the debt/deficit.
-He embraces Lindsey Graham at rally after rally and has Graham and his team running his campaign in South Carolina. That would be like DeSantis having Mitt Romney be in charge of his campaign in Utah.
-He praised Cuomo and Newsom and said they did a good job with COVID
-He said Stacey Abrams is better than Brian Kemp.
-He celebrated when Michael Bennet, a woke Democrat who supports mutilating children and indoctrinating them with CRT and drag queens won re-election.
-He sabotaged both Republican Senators ahead of the GA runoffs, helping hand both seats over to the Dems.
-He praised Charlie Crist and implied that he was just as good as if not a better Governor than DeSantis.
-He has been spewing left-wing talking points on social security.
-He was Disney’s number one cheerleader against DeSantis.

He’s a RINO.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16197 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:58 pm to
Ron DeSantis’ campaign looks like death on a cracker right now.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73784 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:02 pm to
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RammerJammer91


FN MORON GUMP!

RINO! RINO MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN REAGAN!



yup plus pathological liars like rammerjammergumpcuck proving my points non stop. clowns would fit in well on democrat underground. zero shame.
while we post facts non stop they post continual lies

orange man said he supports dylan mulvaney/ bud light-lies

orange man said he loves trannies/groomers! lies- said quite the opposite on girls sports, military and U18 surguries

trump is to the left of stalin!-lies. ive laid out his polices ad infinitum and the vast majority are conservative


trump had no accomplishments-lies-ive laid them out over and over and linked them.

trump is GOPe. lies-right they loved him so much huh colluding/supporting with dems non stop in impeachments/rigged elections/going against maga candidates,maybe even this indictment!.
^^^^^^you are here cuck^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

these clowns are far worse than left wingers. at least with left wingers you know what you are getting. i promise you they are all never trumpers. always have been.

LINK
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73784 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:03 pm to
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Ron DeSantis’ campaign looks like death on a cracker right now.




ron is done like dinner

rammahismommajammacuck91 might off himself

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