re: Does winning the CWS keep people here?

Yet when you hear players talk about Jay, all you hear is how much they love him and he is great to play for and he will win championships for years to come. Something don't quite jive. Some freshmen may be butt hurt if they didn't get to play as much as expected or whatever, but they knew the talent of this team when coming in. If they don't want to work that hard to win championships or be good teammates until their time comes, then so be it.

It’s not new for “major” freshmen to want to leave toward the end of the year where they got beat out and didn’t play as much as they felt they should. Happens every year and it’s now even more prevalent with NIL and transfer rules. It’s bound to happen. It’s not a reflection on the head coach or anyone else for that matter but those players and their self-perceptions. I heard a name or two as well.

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I would say it does a lot for recruiting, but these kids today move on , unless you get that rare kid like Crews.

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It does, especially for portal guys. But the guys he recruits all think they’re the next Crews. If they don’t play much as freshmen and see that he’s bringing upperclassmen in at their spots, of course they’re consider leaving.

I don’t think he has a whole lot of loyalty if he feels it compromises winning in any way. I don’t think Dugas or Beloso were even on this team if it weren’t for the extra COVID roster spots. He’s said you can’t win without major leaguers. And he’s right. But you also can’t win without upperclassmen program guys. And at LSU, specifically guys from Louisiana. It does mean more for them to wear that uniform and they’re much more likely to stay longer if they’re not playing as much as they think they should/thought they would. Hopefully this season showed him that, and he finds the right balance. And it’s a hard balance to find—he’s never gonna want to punt on a season and not give every team the best chance to win a championship.

But like, Gavin Guidry had a hard bonus number out of high school (rumored to be around $3 million). So he likely turned down at least $2 million. But he’s a draft eligible sophomore—I’m sure his plan was to start in the middle infield for 2 years then go get paid. If Jay brings in upperclassmen and Gavin can’t beat them out yet, he’s gonna have to consider looking elsewhere. (I’m just using him as an example because it was easy—not saying he’s the kind of guy that would bail when things don’t go exactly like he thought).

It’s no big deal to recycle through coaches every year. I’m sure they know by now that while it may be really difficult to work for him while they’re doing it, it will pay off long-term and they’ll have been better off having done it. But kids and their parents who have MLB aspirations and $$$$ stars in their eyes might start to question LSU if Jay gets the rep of just filling a lineup full of mercenaries every year. And other coaches will start using that to negative recruit against him. I’m not saying he won’t find that balance—I’m quite sure he will—but with the allure of the history of LSU baseball, the current popularity of the whole LSU brand, and now a NC in year 2 on top of all that, he’ll have more access to the best players and could potentially fall into the trap of replacing guys every year from the portal instead of trusting the young guys to develop.

Again, not that he’d “punt” ‘24–or any year ever—but capitalizing on the NC this year was huge. With one in his pocket, he can think a little more strategically long-term.

Be careful. Ell will be coming after you!! Lol

I’m not going after anyone. Note that Naptime didn’t dispute anything I said except for saying he’s a fan. He does still have connections, yes… but not like he used to.

If he had worded this thread like one of his responses to me, it would have been fine. But he chose to use his OP to take shots. Sad really.

And I’ve also told you I have had the same connections for probably 30 years. I haven’t lost any connection in any way shape or form And what in my original post do you think is taking a shot? I guess I’m not allowed to ask questions, just give out information

Hot Carl, you actually get it!

So me stating facts about Wes looking for another job for a while and another member leaving is taking a shot? We have very different opinions of what taking a shot means.

You haven’t made any suggestions at all that Jay is hard to work for? Answer honestly.