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re: Jay Johnson on the pitching plan
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:54 pm to ell_13
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:54 pm to ell_13
It’s obvious we should hold him for game 2. This fixation on game 1 is ridiculous. Game 2 is just as important. They work together. If we weren’t looking towards wake, I’d get it. But Jesus they’re a buzzsaw. We need our ace. Floyd can handle Tennessee.
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:57 pm to Captain Crown
There will be a rain day this weekend.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:58 pm to Honkus
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Wake is a much tougher matchup
One game at a time! You play to win the game in front of you. This is also a Tennessee team who will be there to send a message.
I would also bet that if you ask anyone on the team who they want on the mound, they will tell you Paul. Nobody who will see playing time has been to Omaha on our team, you throw your ace and win game one.
Figure out game 2 when we get there.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:59 pm to jlovel7
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Floyd can handle Tennessee.
Not if he pitches like he did this past weekend.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:00 pm to ell_13
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Winning game 1 means nothing if you lose game 2.
I disagree. If you lose game 2, you still have a shot b/c you won game 1. Paul gives us the best chance to win game 1.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:01 pm to ell_13
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ou are putting more emphasis on game 1. You think it’s more important when both statistically and via probabilities it is equally important to game 2. I get that that is difficult to understand. Put it this way, would you rather have a 100% chance of winning game one if that means you only have a 10% chance of winning game two or would you rather have a 50% chance at winning both? Mathematically, you want scenario two since it gets you to 2-0 25% of the time while scenario 1 is only 10%. Understand? That’s for arguments sake. I’ve already said you pitch him game one but not because it’s “more important” as you have said.
LOL. Can you be in the winner's bracket if you lose game 1?
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:02 pm to Honkus
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Wake is a much tougher matchup
Did Wake already win Game 1? I did not know this.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:04 pm to Honkus
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We are holding skenes back for WF. Heard it here first!
Please do. And then you may not even see Wake unless they lose.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:04 pm to GeauxATX
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I disagree. If you lose game 2, you still have a shot b/c you won game 1.
and if you lose game 1 without using Skenes, you still "have a shot", the same shot actually, if skenes wins you game 2.
and if you say pitch skenes in gm1 so he can come back early (gm4 thursday), then you are jeopardizing his availability for the championship series. probably not available until if necessary Monday and limited at that.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:06 pm to GeauxATX
He gives us the best chance to win any game. And since 1 and 2 are statistically equals, there would be a good reason to start him game 2 over 1 if you thought he gave you a better chance to win that game while your chances in game 1 don’t fall off as much.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:07 pm to Broski
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Floyd can handle Tennessee. Not if he pitches like he did this past weekend.
I’ll retort, if he pitches like he did last weekend against Stanford or Wake then it really doesn’t matter then does it?
Even more incentive to pitch him against an inferior opponent first.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:08 pm to deathvalleytiger10
quote:Nope. And you can’t be there at 2-0 if you lose game 2. There will be two teams that go 1-1. They will play each other in their 3rd game. One team will have lost the first game. The other team would have lost the second. Getting to 2-0 is extremely important. How you get there is up for debate.
Can you be in the winner's bracket if you lose game 1?
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:08 pm to GeauxATX
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I disagree. If you lose game 2, you still have a shot b/c you won game 1. Paul gives us the best chance to win game 1.
We’d have skenes in the loser bracket game if that happens. That’s not an awful alternative. It is a risk. But I think it’s a calculated one.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:09 pm to ell_13
Does Stanford having the most Omaha experience make them more likely to upset Wake or is it negligible?
Virginia and Tennessee are the only other teams that really have any and Tennessee's isn't much because the roster has turned over so drastically in the last couple years. Don't know as much on Virginia.
Virginia and Tennessee are the only other teams that really have any and Tennessee's isn't much because the roster has turned over so drastically in the last couple years. Don't know as much on Virginia.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:10 pm to ell_13
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Nope. And you can’t be there at 2-0 if you lose game 2. There will be two teams that go 1-1. They will play each other in their 3rd game. One team will have lost the first game. The other team would have lost the second. Getting to 2-0 is extremely important. How you get there is up for debate.
I’d argue it’s riskier to be so blinded by “win the first game” and send a shakier pitcher out against Wake than it is sit down and think, realize winning game 2 is just as important as game 1 and then assess from
There. Losing game 1 or game 2 puts you in the exact same position.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:10 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:I think it helps for sure. Coaches like Skip wouldn’t preach it if it wasn’t so important. It will be interesting to see how Wake handles a big stage (pun intended). Both teams play at small parks.
Does Stanford having the most Omaha experience make them more likely to upset Wake or is it negligible?
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:11 pm to jlovel7
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Floyd can handle Tennessee.
Maybe but maybe not. He did give up 4 runs in 5 innings when we played them earlier this year.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:14 pm to ell_13
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) winning game 1 means very little if you lose game 2
They can call it dumb. Idiotic but what you said the absolute truth.
It makes no difference if you lose game 1 or game 2.
So we need to keep repeating that for people understand.
It doesn't matter if you win that first game with Skenes if you lose the next one.
If you go 1-0 then 1-1 or 0-1 then 1-1 is no difference.
Only thing that matters is going 2-0. Yh n everything is on the table.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:15 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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He did give up 4 runs in 5 innings when we played them earlier this year.
And 5 runs in 4.2 innings when we played them last year.
I know, different rosters, but same coaches and same scouting reports.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:15 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Maybe but maybe not.
but we're confident in him vs this unanimous # 1 WF team? thats what this boils down to
Skenes vs. Tenn/Floyd vs Wake
or
Floyd vs Tenn./Skenes vs Wake
ill take whats behind door #2
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