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No PIN # is safer now than using a PIN #?

Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44826 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:14 pm
Almost everywhere cards are accepted, you can just hit enter without the pin# and the transaction is processed. I guess you only need a PIN# now for the ATM.

I realize the thought is so hackers can't steal the PIN#, but how does this make sense?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147703 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:15 pm to
Can't remember the last time I've had to use a PIN#

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61227 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:15 pm to
Why would anyone still use a debit card to buy stuff?
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10455 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:16 pm to
Because as a debit transaction, a pin is required. No Pin on a debit card makes VISA responsible.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44826 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Can't remember the last time I've had to use a PIN#
Same. Crazy though.... you would think a PIN# would give some protection at least. Now a lost or stolen card can be used anywhere in person, not just online where PIN#s were never needed.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175298 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Why would anyone still use a debit card to buy stuff?

Same people put their number on the do not call list thinking it will stop criminal scammers.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5417 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:26 pm to
It’s gotten to the point that when I do go to an ATM I momentarily freeze up because my PIN # doesn’t come to me and/or I second guess it. Used to never happen when we used them all the time.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59228 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:28 pm to
Get a low interest, cash back or rewards credit card.

Make all of your purchases with it.


Pay your entire balance monthly.

Relax and profit.
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77490 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:33 pm to
When you bypass the PIN it processes as a credit charge I believe.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
75952 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Why would anyone still use a debit card to buy stuff?


Some places don't charge a fee for debit cards while still charging a fee for credit.

The cashback options have run it's course these days.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6641 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:35 pm to
I set up my CC in Apple Pay and I rarely even take my wallet out anymore.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18535 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Pay your entire balance monthly.



Some people can't do this consistently and lose track of how much money they have to pay off credit balances. Using a debit card, which when used as debit with a PIN, literally won't work if you try to spend money you don't have.

While in a perfect world everybody has impulse control and maturity to not buy things they can't afford at that moment in cash, it's just not reality. Debit cards offer a hard "no" when you try.

ETA:

Not talking about me

I have 5 credit cards:

Amazon VISA for Amazon
Costco VISA for CostCo (kids, we buy in bulk)
Amex Platinum which I use for work travel and they pay the fee
Amex Blue Cash Preferred with no annual fee for 5% back on gas and non-costco groceries
Southwest VISA for Southwest travel (and sometimes kids' tuition to maintain my status )

This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 1:41 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72539 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:40 pm to
Cash to tip the valet, cash to tip the bellhop, cash to tip the captain and mate, cash to tip the tour guide, cash to tip the bicycle taxi etc. Cash is still relevant. And you need an ATM card with a PIN to do that.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18535 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Cash is still relevant.


Cash is great to have. Really helps sometimes.

I carry $200 cash and make sure my wife does the same.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6034 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:43 pm to
in other parts of the world, a pin is required for POS CC transactions (as an extra security measure).
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
127203 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:43 pm to
Touching your phone to the scanner is the way to go
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
91743 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

my wallet


soooo 2012 bro
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19104 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:43 pm to
I use Samsung pay wherever possible. Just put your debit card info in your phone. Swipe at checkout. Your card number is never sent to the payment terminal (they use some sort of token instead) so it would be impossible for a rogue employee to steal it. Also, your card info is much safer stored on your phone than it is in a physical wallet.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3099 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:43 pm to
I use tap to pay or Apple Pay for pretty much everything, no pin needed. Even my atm has that option…but for that I still have to use my pin.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60565 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Can't remember the last time I've had to use a PIN


I had to write a check yesterday and used a pen to do it. Pencil can be erased.
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