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re: OK transgender student charged with assaulting female high school classmates in bathroom
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:49 pm to tigerinmexico
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:49 pm to tigerinmexico
quote:
A man beating a teenage girl is not a "fight". Anyone who describes a man assaulting a girl as a "fight" deserves to be
Girls experiencing violence at the hands of a male cross-dresser (in the girls bathroom no less)…Hank’s views =
On the other hand, grown men (that sexually assaulted children in some way) experiencing violence at the hands of other grown men (in a men’s prison)…Hank’s views =
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:52 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:No, Jimmy. I will type more slowly, so that perhaps you will understand better.
So you want them to be treated better than a typical inmate.
I think that beatings by other inmates are not a part of the sentence handed down by our court system. Removal from society is their sentence. That is it. If one category of prisoner (ANY category) is statistically more likely to GET beatings by other inmates, it is incumbent upon the prison system to take appropriate steps to be certain that this category is not subjected to that disproportionate punishment BECAUSE those beatings are NOT a part of their sentences.
If jaywalkers are more likely to get shivved than murders, a reasonable prison system will segregate the jaywalkers. Again, the nature of the offense is IRRELEVANT to the calculus. It could be jaywalking. It could be tax fraud. It could be child molestation.
If your system can segregate the at-risk offenders AND SIMULTANEOUSLY cut costs by 2/3, that is certainly a worthwhile bonus, don't you think?
IMO, any reasonable person would see the matter that way, unless that person is REALLY seeking proxy vigilantism against the at-risk category of offender.
It is rather obvious that THIS is the factor at-play in this discussion. You people think that this category of offender SHOULD be receiving non-judicial punishment in addition to the punishment assessed against them by the justice system.
By definition, that is vigilantism, my friend.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:53 pm to jimmy the leg
You are truly a drooling imbecile.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:57 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
You are truly a drooling imbecile.
Says the poster dismissing the violent assault of two teenage girls by a male cross-dresser.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:00 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
You people think that this category of offender SHOULD be receiving non-judicial punishment in addition to the punishment assessed against them by the justice system.
Link?
IF they are assaulted, then the justice system should punish the offenders, as that would be a new incident. A violent act would be against the law - no? Or is it “just a fight?”
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:00 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:JFC.quote:Says the poster dismissing the violent assault of two teenage girls by a male cross-dresser.
You are truly a drooling imbecile.
I have not dismissed the assault. I have said in no uncertain terms that the assailant should be punished.
I simply to not believe that bathroom policies were the primary cause of this assault. The reporting is clear that these two did not like one another. They were going to fight. If not in the bathroom, then somewhere else.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:03 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
They were going to fight. If not in the bathroom, then somewhere else.
Are you suggesting that, like the pedos, the trannies should be removed to a “safer” facility.
The boys at the drag show are going to be awfully unhappy with your take.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:03 pm to AggieHank86
And you make a false moral equivalence between sex offenders and jaywalkers. Even the worst of our society can see the difference, and that’s why pedos and groomers are shived. And most of society has more to worry about than a pedo trannie getting it from other inmates. Like the spec of dust on my floor deserves more attention.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:05 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
They were going to fight. If not in the bathroom, then somewhere else.
JFC a girl being assaulted isn't a fight.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:06 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:Absolutely. And if the prison system can reasonably anticipate certain assaults (statistically), it should also take steps to prevent those assaults.
IF they are assaulted, then the justice system should punish the offenders
The first issue addresses judicial punishment of the prison assailant. The second issue addresses prevention of non-judicial punishment of the victim of the prison assault, at the hands of fellow inmates.
This is not a complex concept to grasp. Unless you just WANT one category of prisoner to receive a lot of non-judicial punishment. Clearly, you people do.
Me? I want offenders to receive the punishment to which they were sentenced. Nothing more and nothing less.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:09 pm to AggieHank86
But it didn't happen somewhere else. It happened in the bathroom, where that boy should never have been allowed to enter. Agree?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:16 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I want offenders to receive the punishment to which they were sentenced. Nothing more and nothing less.
Did I say otherwise?
I even went as far as to say that IF they are assaulted, the there should be consequences under the law.
You say that I’m proposing vigilantism. I say I’m proposing civility under the rule of law.
What you are proposing is special treatment. Cool. Just admit it.
As noted earlier, in your eyes, some animals are more equal than others.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:17 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Clearly, you people do.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:18 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Absolutely. And if the prison system can reasonably anticipate certain assaults (statistically), it should also take steps to prevent those assaults.
Absolutely. And if the school system can reasonably anticipate certain assaults (statistically), it should also take steps to prevent those assaults.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:21 pm to Flats
quote:
Absolutely. And if the school system can reasonably anticipate certain assaults (statistically), it should also take steps to prevent those assaults.
Dude, you are asking for consistency.
Besides, those aren’t assaults, they’re “just fights.”
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:21 pm to Flats
quote:Sure.
And if the school system can reasonably anticipate certain assaults (statistically), it should also take steps to prevent those assaults.
Is there statistical data to establish that transgender kids are more likely to beat-up fellow students in the bathroom than are non-transgender kids?
I am not aware of any such data, but I would be glad to take a look at whatever you have.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:23 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Is there statistical data to establish that transgender kids are more likely to beat-up fellow students in the bathroom than are non-transgender kids?
MALE students (even cross-dressing ones) are bigger, faster, and stronger than girls. Do you dispute this?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:39 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:On the average, yes.
MALE students (even cross-dressing ones) are bigger, faster, and stronger than girls.
But is there any data to suggest that they are more physically-aggressive? More likely to start fights?
If Clarice Starling is to be believed, quite the opposite is true.
"There's no correlation in the literature between transsexualism and violence. Transsexuals are very passive." Lecter even agreed with her summary.
I've no idea whether Thomas Harris got the research right, but he is generally pretty thorough.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:49 pm to tigerinmexico
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This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:03 pm to AggieHank86
It took a looooong time to pull this bullshite deflection out of your arse.
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