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Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:08 pm to shel311
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Another qualifier to add to Russell has 0 titles FACTUALLY!!
I don't give a shite about the Russell argument, I'm just pointing out that adding teams doesn't make it harder to win a championship.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:09 pm to Bunk Moreland
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LA didn't get the benefit of a 1 seed whatsoever. It's probably the most even, fair, set of conditions for a playoffs ever.
The 140 days of rest more than make up for it. They also played zero road games, including zero high altitude games. No hostile road environments. No travel. Compared to every other playoff, it was a cakewalk, except for having to spend time away from their side pieces. Also, Anthony Davis, known as Mr. Glass, was likely the biggest benefactor of said break.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:10 pm to Epic Cajun
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If that's the case, what's the point in having an 82 game regular season? Why not just have 2-4 weeks of seeding games, and then have the playoffs?
Correct.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:16 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Hell, the NBA is about to implement a mid-season tournament, are we gonna crown the winner of that as a champion, too? 
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:18 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:The NBA isn't in the let's make everything fair for all teams business. They're in the let's make as much money as possible business.
If that's the case, what's the point in having an 82 game regular season? Why not just have 2-4 weeks of seeding games, and then have the playoffs?
So that is why the season is not 2-4 weeks.
But to your point, it's opposite. We have the season and give the higher seeds an advantage for the playoffs. The Lakers were the 1 seed, and they lost that advantage, so they gained no advantage whatsoever. The delay in the league season happened for all 30 teams, so the only advantage/disadvantage was having all games homecourt and thus adversely affecting teams with homecourt advantage.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:18 pm to Epic Cajun
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I don't give a shite about the Russell argument, I'm just pointing out that adding teams doesn't make it harder to win a championship.
Wut? How is it not harder to beat more and better teams?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:19 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Without any context, maybe(though I disagree with that too). With the context of the 2 actual scenarios, it was definitely easier to win with 8 teams for Russell to win than it is now with 30 teams.
I don't give a shite about the Russell argument, I'm just pointing out that adding teams doesn't make it harder to win a championship.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:20 pm to shel311
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so the only advantage/disadvantage was having all games homecourt and thus adversely affecting teams with homecourt advantage.
So there was no advantage to an older team with injury prone players to have extended rest?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:20 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:Damn, that's 1 hell of an advantage the Lakers had that no other team in the league had in 2020.
The 140 days of rest more than make up for it. They also played zero road games, including zero high altitude games. No hostile road environments. No travel.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:20 pm to shel311
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But to your point, it's opposite. We have the season and give the higher seeds an advantage for the playoffs. The Lakers were the 1 seed, and they lost that advantage, so they gained no advantage whatsoever. The delay in the league season happened for all 30 teams, so the only advantage/disadvantage was having all games homecourt and thus adversely affecting teams with homecourt advantage.
The argument is 2020 vs every other year. Not lakers vs other bubble teams.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:23 pm to shel311
Do you not see how that is more of an advantage for certain teams over others?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:24 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:There are situations where adding teams would definitely make it harder
I'm just pointing out that adding teams doesn't make it harder to win a championship.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:27 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Every team played under the same parameterse.
So there was no advantage to an older team with injury prone players to have extended rest?
They also weren't really older. Lebron was 35, but to that point, invincible. He was going to be fine regardless.
Pretty sure their next 3 best players were 26 and under.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:27 pm to ReauxlTide222
If you look at the post I initially responded to it was regarding Jordan never winning a title when there were 30 teams. Going from 27 to 30 teams isn't going to make it more difficult to win a title.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:29 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Other than AD, I don't agree with the premise that the Lakers were old and filled with injury prone players. I don't think either is true, so no, I'm not convinced that helped them more than other teams.
Do you not see how that is more of an advantage for certain teams over others?
Do you not agree that losing homecourt hurt the Lakers more than any other team in the postseason?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:31 pm to shel311
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They also weren't really older.
They were the second oldest team in the nba that season and their star was 35 years old. Their second best player is also very injury prone. Keep acting like extra rest wasn’t very beneficial for that team though
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:33 pm to Epic Cajun
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if there were still fewer teams wouldn't that make it more difficult?
Just FWIW, I'm not qualifying titles.
My argument re: titles is that they're a team stat.
I'm saying all titles should count, though.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:34 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Nothing is even close to that anomaly.
According to you, primarily b/c that helps your argument
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:36 pm to shel311
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They also weren't really older. Lebron was 35, but to that point, invincible. He was going to be fine regardless.
Except for the season before he played 55 games and began his physical breakdown.
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