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When was the last time America fought for a righteous cause?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:20 pm
WWII?
I honestly don’t know. I used to believe Iraq and Afghanistan were, but no longer. Gulf? Korea? Vietnam?
To what degree does it delegitimize us as a country that purports to be a force for moral good?
I honestly don’t know. I used to believe Iraq and Afghanistan were, but no longer. Gulf? Korea? Vietnam?
To what degree does it delegitimize us as a country that purports to be a force for moral good?
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:22 pm to Masterag
Very few wars are completely “just” but for the attack on Pearl Harbor and the concentration camps alone, we fought a just war.
Since then, I’m afraid to say, probably none.
Since then, I’m afraid to say, probably none.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:24 pm to Masterag
Here's the thing that gets me. The Soviet Union invaded Poland at the same time as Nazi Germany. But Britain and France only declared war on Germany. If the reason for WW2 was protecting countries from unprovoked invasion, why not declare war on the Soviet Union as well?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:24 pm to Masterag
Probably Civil War
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:25 pm to Masterag
Fighting Communism is righteous, what does that say about VN?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:25 pm to Masterag
I'm willing to march into hell for a heavenly cause
And I'll fight for the righteous brothers
And I'll fight for the righteous brothers
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:27 pm to Masterag
Why were Korea and Vietnam not "just"? I think we went into Vietnam without an end game or exit strategy, but I believe we went in for noble reasons.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:29 pm to Masterag
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WWII
That was a false flag, imo. The bad guys ultimately also won in ww2. WW1 is the answer, at least I think.
Was Hitler a greater evil individual that should have been brought to heel than any one else in ww2? Sure. There was no hope for Nazi-ism to spread in the long run.
But what DID spread? Who DID win ww2?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:30 pm to m2pro
the ALAMO
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:31 pm to Masterag
The Soviets were worse than the Nazis.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:32 pm to Masterag
1812
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:33 pm to Masterag
Hell, who knows? A long time for sure.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:33 pm to Masterag
1812 was the last legitimate war that comes to mind. WW2 is questionable the more I learn, because of the way we allied with the Soviets and Chinese.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:34 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Fighting Communism is righteous, what does that say about VN?
According to you. Who are you to tell someone they can’t be communist? VN was definitely not righteous IMO. It was fought under the guise of a moral panic.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:34 pm to StrongOffer
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Why were Korea and Vietnam not "just"? I think we went into Vietnam without an end game or exit strategy, but I believe we went in for noble reasons.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:34 pm to gymtiger89
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If the reason for WW2 was protecting countries from unprovoked invasion
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:36 pm to gymtiger89
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why not declare war on the Soviet Union as well?
Because you’re forcing the two most dangerous regimes in the world to become allies.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:37 pm to burger bearcat
quote:The alternative was allying with Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito.
WW2 is questionable the more I learn, because of the way we allied with the Soviets and Chinese.
Edit: And China wasn't a threat until Clinton gave them the keys to challenge us.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/16/23 at 3:37 pm to StrongOffer
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The alternative was allying with Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito.
Their body count combined was a fraction of just Stalin or Mao.
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