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Turkey hunting question: Season over got my birds no complaints (happy to be alive) but …

Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:47 pm
Birds have always responded to owl call sometimes to crow call. Basically use that in the dark to plan my hunt. Until this year, they never responded to owl call or owls, or crows or yelps or anything while on the roast.

Is this just a blip or should I expect the same next year etc
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6854 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:51 pm to
Either I'm drunk or your sentence structure is hard to follow (or both).

Are you saying you used to hear turkeys gobble on the limb, but this year you didn't hear one on the limb?
Posted by Richard Grayson
Bestbank
Member since Sep 2022
2149 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Either I'm drunk or your sentence structure is hard to follow (or both).


Glad I;m not the only one.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4953 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:25 pm to
I'm not sure if it was a one off deal or not.

But our birds in Central Texas Hill country weren't responding to calls either. The birds were very quiet for some reason this year.
Posted by spudz
Member since Mar 2015
443 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:42 pm to
Let the woods awake naturally. If you need to locate after the sun comes up, use a crow call.

Right or wrong, that’s just how I do it.
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
4958 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:50 pm to
I don’t know if you remember me asking you about the Black Belt and Red Hills 2 weeks ago, but we left Baton Rouge at 12:00pm, pulled up to the camping area at Red Hills around 5:00am, walked 150yards down the first trail we found and hear a gobble responding to the Donkey hewhawing back up toward the highway.

Set up on him, hit a few hen calls and get two more responding back in two other directions. But not once that weekend did we hear any response to owl calls.
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
4958 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

The birds were very quiet for some reason this year.


Same in Louisiana and Mississippi.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19587 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:55 pm to
As an “old fart”, I’ve seen Wild Turkey behavior change over the years. There was a time when we all roosted birds at fly up, but I’ve all but quit trying because of how few gobbles I hear at that time of the day.

I’ve always suspected an increase in predator populations may have had something to do with it. That and bad habitat that prevents birds from adequately seeing the ground while on the roost.

I once went to a gobbling turkey at daylight and got in close while he was still on the limb. I never saw the bobcat and I’m pretty sure he didn’t see me, but he damned sure tried to run off with the gobbler as soon as his feet hit the ground that morning.

I guess I’m saying that at some point, even those peanut brain turkeys start to figure it out.

BTW, now that you’ve mentioned it, I don’t recall having a single bird answer my crow call this season. Owling at daylight still worked though.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:15 pm to
Yeah it was weird. They have always replied to an owl call early in the morning on the roast. Always. On a good day I could get the real owls going and basically locate half the damn turkeys on the property. I eventually found certain spots I could do an owl call and it would carry and cover the areas I knew they generally roost. It got to where I could do about half a dozen owl calls and know where half a dozen birds were located and by knowing each bird’s territory and preferences for strut zones use that to plan my hunt. (Sounds cool right but when you start naming birds and knowing this much about them it obviously isn’t a good thing, that last 50 yards was always the key. )

Anyway, we finally managed to kill off a few old birds, (and some died by bobcat or old age) so we finally have a bunch of 2/3 year old killable birds.

But them refusing to gobble on the roost threw me for a loop. I couldn’t find my peacock call to try that but they didn’t respond to anything on the roost this year, i actually had one rustle his feather when I did an owl call, had to be less than 40 feet away, but I decided he probably made me too so left him alone. They would respond to any hen call either.

On my last hunt this caused me to set up 30 feet from one, (didn’t have that tree marked) which was obviously too close and he went the other way. Now once they hit the ground they were golden and easier than usual to call in. (Except the really foggy days, I am not hunting those anymore.)

Now Robert, the 40 pound bobcat was active the last few weeks because I have him on camera in daylight, but they didn’t respond weeks before that. So I don’t think that’s it.

Every thing else other than the early nesting was normal behavior even predictable. I guess I will have to use my thermal binoculars next year if they do this again.

It wouldn’t really matter except I have to use pop up tent on this property, or they see me, and they will not enter the fields without decoys. Easy if two people are hunting, (then you can ditch the tent too with a caller and a shooter) but a pain in the arse for an old man like me
Posted by sdw1002
Member since Jun 2017
131 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:38 pm to
I have offered before and will offer again. I live less than 15 minutes from where you hunt and would be glad to show you how to hunt these turkeys. I don’t mean to sound crude, but you are hunting turkeys in an area with some of the best turkey hunters on the planet and I can tell from reading your posts you have absolutely no idea what you are doing.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:34 pm to
I will take you up on that next year but also a warning, you would be the fourth person I have taken up on that offer, some outstanding championship turkey hunters. But none of them killed a turkey or really got close. They all gave me some advice and I did learn from all of them. It’s not an easy place to hunt for one person, we have significant predator issues and the turkeys can locate a caller easily from several hundred yards away even in the damn swamp. Much much better with a caller and a shooter.

They are large swamp turkeys and almost as skittish as the deer, and our ground is covered with sticks right now and shite from clear cutting, so even if you are a ninja you are sneaking up on these birds.

But seriously, I am always looking for someone to hunt with and you have to be better caller than I am. We have sone monster birds, the biggest I have killed is only 25 pounds but we have many much bigger. Hit me up next year and I will show you the birds and you can show me how to do it.

I have a local guy that you probably know that is retired and lives right there, and gives me a daily turkey report from March to May, so locating birds is not a issue, shooting them is

Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5151 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:45 am to
quote:

some outstanding championship turkey hunters.


Where is the turkey hunting championship being held this year?
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1786 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 7:07 am to
We had one at my lease. Everybody got last place!
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 5/13/23 at 1:56 am to
Any year I kill a bird or two I count as a win. Lol. I started way too late to ever be good at hunting anything, am blind in one eye deaf in one ear etc but I will usually kick some arse on the water where I have spent my whole life and been an avid fisherman for 50 or 60 years.

I used to always fish the Fall versus hunting, best fishing of the year and least boat traffic. I used to count the days to deer season to get rid of all the damn boats. Wednesday and Thursdays during the week in the Fall are typically great fishing days.
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