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It doesn’t seem like kids today are very interested in learning music instruments,
Posted on 5/5/23 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 5/5/23 at 5:55 pm
Being in bands, or think guitars are “cool”?
Is this because music videos have become obsolete?
Is this because music videos have become obsolete?
Posted on 5/5/23 at 6:27 pm to Robin Masters
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Is this because passion, art and the organic process with human hands have become obsolete
I blame rap for making generic electronic music acceptable over large audiences. It normalized a focus on the vocals, which are now even processed and false.
In the 80s and 90s it was cool to get a guitar or a set of drums. Now people have traded in their instruments for SoundCloud accounts. People don't hang out anymore, they all sit at home alone on computers.
Not saying that can't be productive, look at early nine inch nails, wumpscut, skinny puppy, leatherstrip, etc..but again, it requires talent.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:11 pm to SEClint
Part of it is every American Idol show focuses on vocalists and not musicians.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:52 pm to 88Wildcat
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Part of it is every American Idol show focuses on vocalists and not musicians.
Well that became the format, young solo artists who took the contract making 1/10 of what they probably should make, they found out were easier to manipulate than a whole band where each member has their own lawyer.
That goes back to the 50s too. But pop music can also be blamed for how it's become. The 80s really transformed the music business with television, and looks really began to matter. By the late 90s and 2nd wave of teen pop that format was set into stone.
People used to be actors or musicians or models or fashion designers etc
Now people are all those, plus the title of "influencer". We now live in a world where colors matter so much to a society that has lost all the ones that made it unique.
I only appreciate the hate it makes me feel, which makes me still do what I love to do even more. As long as there is a reason to say "frick it all", there is a reason to create organic chaos.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 5/5/23 at 9:39 pm to SEClint
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I only appreciate the hate it makes me feel, which makes me still do what I love to do even more. As long as there is a reason to say "frick it all", there is a reason to create organic chaos.
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As long as there is a reason to say "frick it all", there is a reason to create organic chaos.
You can add "dripping sarcastic humor" to that, which is what I like, and it's more of a country thing, but...
Lately I have been listening to more "metalish" music and trying to convert progressions to cowboy chords, and transposing to favorable keys.. it's kind of fun.
Usually sounds like spaghetti western with too much cheese, but it doesn't matter as long as we keep playing and writing.
Thankfully, we have guitars to pour our energy in to.
Otherwise, where the hell would we be? Hero or criminal?
Guitars saved us.
This post was edited on 5/6/23 at 12:13 am
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:09 pm to Robin Masters
Effort is a word not in many people's vocabulary
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:15 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Effort is a word not in many people's vocabulary
" you said a mouthful Spanky"
Posted on 5/5/23 at 10:52 pm to Robin Masters
My daughter always wants to run and grab her guitar when I play. I hope she'll decide to really learn to play, because I didn't pick it up until my 20s and feel like I lost prime years to learn and evolve.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:03 pm to Jester
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I didn't pick it up until my 20s and feel like I lost prime years to learn and evolve.
IMO this is not a good way to think. Every thing that you have ever learned and done, makes you what you are.
Don't learn songs, make your own.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:28 pm to SEClint
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Well that became the format, young solo artists who took the contract making 1/10 of what they probably should make, they found out were easier to manipulate than a whole band where each member has their own lawyer.
I think that's a BIG part of it. The music widget industry prefers to focus on a single "artist" they can promote and more easily understand/market, and possibly control, than a mix of different personalities.
We've also had decades now of hostility toward arts and music education, from politicians and others who don't understand or appreciate the contributions they make. It's not as easily quantifiable in our test score obsessed world. So there's a populace who are educated mainly through the previously mentioned widget industry.
Posted on 5/5/23 at 11:36 pm to pheroy
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We've also had decades now of hostility toward arts and music education, from politicians and others who don't understand or appreciate the contributions they make. It's not as easily quantifiable in our test score obsessed world. So there's a populace who are educated mainly through the previously mentioned widget industry.
wut? Just play your guitar. You don't need government help to do that.
Posted on 5/6/23 at 7:26 am to SEClint
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. People don't hang out anymore, they all sit at home alone on computers
Mainstream music has no soul. The culture creates the music and we live in a bankrupt, soulless culture.
Posted on 5/7/23 at 5:15 am to Robin Masters
Didn’t I just read on this site where music stores reported record sales on musical instruments?
Posted on 5/7/23 at 11:04 am to Robin Masters
Guys like John Mayer made guitar playing uncool going forward
Plus good guitar players are a dime a dozen
Plus good guitar players are a dime a dozen
Posted on 5/7/23 at 11:07 am to themetalreb
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Didn’t I just read on this site where music stores reported record sales on musical instruments?
Everybody who has one guitar has 8 guitars
Most guitars are $200 and made in China
Posted on 5/7/23 at 8:15 pm to Robin Masters
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It doesn’t seem like kids today are very interested in learning music instruments,
Based on what?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:24 am to SEClint
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In the 80s and 90s it was cool to get a guitar or a set of drums.
In the 90's, anyone who could play at all could get on a stage in some grungy club and play in front of other teens or twentysomethings. I don't see many venues like that anymore. There's probably more than one reason, from urban gentrification driving up real estate costs, to parents being able to keep tab on their kids with smart phones. But there's probably a lot less incentive to start a rock band these days.
Kids are still interested in music; just about every public school near me has some sort of music magnet program. But the local live music scene, especially for new rock, has changed pretty drastically.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 7:56 am to PowerTool
Djs/jukeboxes killed the cover band star baw
Or just easy music in general
Nowadays they can choose something like “early 2000s hip hop” on Spotify and Bluetooth it to the pa and be good all night on music
Or just easy music in general
Nowadays they can choose something like “early 2000s hip hop” on Spotify and Bluetooth it to the pa and be good all night on music
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:49 am to Robin Masters
When we were kids we wanted to be not musicians, but rock stars, because rock stars were the acme of "cool" in the pop culture of the time. But the age of the rock star has died. Kids nowadays want to be social media influencers, because social media influencers are the acme of "cool" in the pop culture of today.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:14 am to Robin Masters
The barrier to entry for creating music is just so low right now with technology the way it is. What kind of "rock" bands do they have to look up to and aspire to be these days?
I think its a great opportunity for the kids who do learn though. If you can get marginally decent at guitar and make an entire album by yourself with pro tools and just piece it together.
I think its a great opportunity for the kids who do learn though. If you can get marginally decent at guitar and make an entire album by yourself with pro tools and just piece it together.
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