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Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:41 am
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4489 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:41 am
Anyone thinking of redeeming them with rates being less than savings? I’m thinking of holding them for now.

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41745 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:48 am to
I am out July/August depending on treasury market at time. I don't like the website. If there is an issue I don't want to deal with DMV level customer service and I have 0 fixed rate

But will wait until accruing at low rate
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 9:36 am
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5343 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 9:57 am to
What's the rate now, and what kind of savings you have that is more than what the inflationary adjustment was?

I've got 20k that's coming up on a year, but my bank has been calling me with 1 year CD's at 5%. that's hard not to jump on with idle monies.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 9:58 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42692 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:18 am to
quote:

I am out July/August depending on treasury market at time. I don't like the website


Same here. I'm hoping I can even figure out how to get out of them on that site. That thing is atrocious.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 11:35 am to
What is the new rate?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41745 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

What is the new rate?


High 3% I think
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12947 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:30 pm to
So if I bought at 9.62 in October, my next 6 months will likely be the sub 4 percent coming up for the next 6 months, right? If I withdrawal at 15 months, I only get 12 months of interest.

I was reading where it may be even below 3.50 percent. Not a TD joke
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41745 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

if I bought at 9.62 in October


6 months of 9.62% and then 6 months of 6.78% on 3 month lag for first 5 years

Should hold at least until December 2023 imho
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7891 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 1:00 pm to
Your bond rerates biannually from your purchase date to the current rate. So if you purchase in Oct, your rate sticks for 6 months and then switches to new rate from nov.

I've personally never had an issue with treasurydirect website. I've purchased and sold I bonds and treasuries for me and my wife. Never had a hiccup or issue.

However I will be getting out of my ibonds once they rerate to whatever the new rate is, they don't make sense anymore, but it was a great place to have cash for last 2 Years, made awesome riskfree return comparable to the options.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6817 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 1:02 pm to
I purchased in Dec 2021-

I have made a little less than $1,000 in interest over the life of the bond. I see where current rates are 6.xx

Can I redeem this bond at anytime, or is there a more advantageous time to do it? I would like to redeem it and put it in a high yield account earning 5%.

ETA: It looks like the rates will reset in May. So maybe hold until August, then redeem? That way the 3 months of interest I will forfeit will be at the lower rate than the current rate....Is this line of thinking correct?
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted by LazyDaveD
Broussard, LA
Member since Sep 2003
1101 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 1:16 pm to
This is a good site to show value, just remember you have to go back 3 months if less than 5 years old. They'll update it once the new rate is officially announced.

I bond Values
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12947 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 1:39 pm to
Great, thanks for this and the other replies. That clarifies a lot more. Glad to have jumped in at 9.62 at the start. Will decide next year what the plan is moving forward with that money.
Posted by prestigeworldwide
Member since May 2018
395 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 1:42 pm to
Following - we have 20k that we put in I-bonds last May. Would a 13 week t-bill be a good alternative?
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4489 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 3:53 pm to
The rate is going to be 3.89% but if November is also sub 4. Then it’s less than 4% interest on savings.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38781 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 4:56 pm to
If you withdraw before 5 years you lose the last 3 months of interest

Mine reaches a year at the end of May. I think I’ll let it sit for 3 extra months then cash out
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1577 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 4:56 pm to
That's the variable rate. What the fixed rate would be is unknown. The main place I go for info on TIPS/I-bonds guesses the fixed rate will be 0.6%-0.8%.

https://tipswatch.com/2023/04/14/i-bond-dilemma-buy-in-april-buy-in-may-or-dont-buy-at-all/
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

we have 20k that we put in I-bonds last May. Would a 13 week t-bill be a good alternative?


It depends on when you might need the money and what your outlook is for rates going forward.

I have no idea how the debt ceiling fight might affect the bond market shorter term. And I have no idea what rates might be over the medium term. If we do indeed have anything more than a mild recession later this year or into early 2024, the Fed will likely be poised to cut rates. But who really knows?

So I’m going with a fairly neutral strategy of laddering some spare cash into 4 and 13 week t-bills, another amount in 1 year fixed rate corporate notes yielding 5.3%, another amount in 3 year fixed rate corporate notes yielding 5.5% and the rest held in the Schwab SWVXX fund. This is all in tax advantaged investment (not trading) accounts.

Not offering advice. Just what I’m doing based on my situation.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4489 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:09 pm to
How do you buy t bills?
Posted by prestigeworldwide
Member since May 2018
395 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 9:44 pm to
I would buy them directly from the Treasury website.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 1:27 am to
Yes, you can certainly buy them through Treasury Direct. Some people don’t care for it, but once you get used to the Treasury Direct site, I don’t think it’s that bad. I have an account and have bought them through there too. But in my IRAs, I buy new issues through my brokerage (TD Ameritrade or Schwab). There wouldn’t be a way to transfer them into an IRA as far as I know. One advantage of Treasury Direct is you can buy in $100 increments, rather than the $1000 minimum when buying through a brokerage.
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