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I think most of this taunting drama stems from people not following WBB…
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:00 pm
When I saw how Angel Reese was acting during the game I also thought it was really unnecessary. However this was my first WBB game I’ve watched all year. I know nothing of the backstories or players whatever else would be going on the same way I’m tuned into Football for example.
When I found out this morning this Clark girl has been doing this all season obviously it made more sense Reese would be dishing it back to her.
A lot of people are questioning why Clark can do this without blowback and Reese can’t. Obviously there is a racial element to that. I think the answer is even easier than that. Most people don’t watch women's basketball and had no idea Clark had been doing this all season, including sports commentators who’s angry tweets we’ve seen. I imagine though nobody actually wants to admit they don’t actually watch WBB except now they’re all being implicitly branded racists because they ran their mouth without realizing the backstory.
I have to say imagining all of the talking heads at ESPN being in this awkward position does make me laugh a bit though.
When I found out this morning this Clark girl has been doing this all season obviously it made more sense Reese would be dishing it back to her.
A lot of people are questioning why Clark can do this without blowback and Reese can’t. Obviously there is a racial element to that. I think the answer is even easier than that. Most people don’t watch women's basketball and had no idea Clark had been doing this all season, including sports commentators who’s angry tweets we’ve seen. I imagine though nobody actually wants to admit they don’t actually watch WBB except now they’re all being implicitly branded racists because they ran their mouth without realizing the backstory.
I have to say imagining all of the talking heads at ESPN being in this awkward position does make me laugh a bit though.
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:01 pm to jlovel7
First, what Angel Reese did was totally fine and acceptable. It wasn't that bad or unsportsmanlike. The taunt was directly directed at Caitlin Clark, but she wasn't an inch from her face, it didn't turn into a physical "touching", it wasn't calling her names, and so forth.
Second, what Caitlin Clark did (the John Cena wave), in my opinion, wasn't the exact same tone and intent as what Reese did. From the video shown, it looks like she wasn't directly staring down any particular player or the team. It looked like she did it while strutting back to her bench.
That said, Caitlin Clark played with a noticeable confidence - waving off certain players (you're not worth guarding), the John Cena wave, and such. She is able to back it up though. She did put up 30 on LSU, 40 on South Carolina, and such.
Angel Reese was certainly letting her know what's up, but again, to me, it wasn't that egregious. I think the media just needs a talking point ....
And, FWIW, Clark's postgame comments on LSU, the Reese gesture, and Mulkey were pure class.
ETA: Caitlin Clark, this gesture, South Carolina's bigs, and Mulkey's "flashy" outfits are exactly what women's college basketball needs. We're discussing this more than tonight's men's NC...
Second, what Caitlin Clark did (the John Cena wave), in my opinion, wasn't the exact same tone and intent as what Reese did. From the video shown, it looks like she wasn't directly staring down any particular player or the team. It looked like she did it while strutting back to her bench.
That said, Caitlin Clark played with a noticeable confidence - waving off certain players (you're not worth guarding), the John Cena wave, and such. She is able to back it up though. She did put up 30 on LSU, 40 on South Carolina, and such.
Angel Reese was certainly letting her know what's up, but again, to me, it wasn't that egregious. I think the media just needs a talking point ....
And, FWIW, Clark's postgame comments on LSU, the Reese gesture, and Mulkey were pure class.
ETA: Caitlin Clark, this gesture, South Carolina's bigs, and Mulkey's "flashy" outfits are exactly what women's college basketball needs. We're discussing this more than tonight's men's NC...
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:03 pm to jlovel7
How can she clapback?
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:06 pm to GentleJackJones
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Mulkey's "flashy" outfits are exactly what women's college basketball needs. We're discussing this more than tonight's men's NC...
I legitimately forgot the men have a championship game tonight.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:08 pm to GentleJackJones
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From the video shown, it looks like she wasn't directly staring down any particular player
Not arguing I agree with most of your post. However if you watch the whole clip Clark is walking at the van lith girl from Louisville while doing that. Most people cut that video short.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:09 pm to jlovel7
It is the same shite that male players do in every sport. It is simple sexism.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:10 pm to jlovel7
“People not following WBB.”
A whole lot of us are less inclined after seeing the level of trash spewed by a “championship” team. CKM crying ahead of the win was beautifully epic. Then you have a player taunting the best player in the sport unnecessarily. It was trashy and a horrible look.
A whole lot of us are less inclined after seeing the level of trash spewed by a “championship” team. CKM crying ahead of the win was beautifully epic. Then you have a player taunting the best player in the sport unnecessarily. It was trashy and a horrible look.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:12 pm to GentleJackJones
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Second, what Caitlin Clark did (the John Cena wave), in my opinion, wasn't the exact same tone and intent as what Reese did. From the video shown, it looks like she wasn't directly staring down any particular player or the team. It looked like she did it while strutting back to her bench.
Caitlin Clark did it directly in front of Van Lith from Louisville. She also told her to "Shut up, you're down 15 points." You obviously have not seen the entire video of it.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:13 pm to GentleJackJones
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From the video shown, it looks like she wasn't directly staring down any particular player or the team. It looked like she did it while strutting back to her bench.
In the video, although the angle is different and doesn't include the players, Clark was directing her taunt directly at opposing players who were walking towards her. Her bench was actually behind her at the time.
EDIT: I went back and watched it again. She was walking to her bench but directed the taunt at a Louisville player who was walking in her direction and crosses her path before she gets to her bench.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:13 pm to Locoguan0
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It is the same shite that male players do in every sport. It is simple sexism.
FWIW i wasnt commenting on what I think is ok. More why people didn’t go after Clark. I legitimately think most people had no idea because they just don’t watch the sport but don’t want to admit that.
I think In general though player celebrations and their attitudes in general are way too “look at me”. But I totally admit that is across almost all sports and on both sides of the gender spectrum.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:15 pm to jlovel7
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A lot of people are questioning why Clark can do this without blowback and Reese can’t.
That’s easy.
Clark is a good player from a northern ‘elite’ school with a fairly attractive look that can be a marketable face of the WNBA. Literally the opposite of Brittany Griner. Amoore fits that mold too for that manner.
That it looks like racism from a combo of National Mediaites and Midwesterners (who are the literal opposite of the ‘hospitality’ they say they are), that’s an irony they’d put first and foremost if the right started doing it.
But the reality is, in typical LSU fashion, their storybook ending got curbstomped, and their hero was the one who broke the comeback momentum.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:15 pm to jlovel7
That people are seriously worked up about this is mind blowing
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:15 pm to jlovel7
I think a previous poster in another thread nailed one of the reasons the media is all up in arms.
Mulkey is her own woman and doesn’t bow down to their woke narrative and it infuriates them. So they are using this Reese issue to backhandedly attack Mulkey.
Mulkey is her own woman and doesn’t bow down to their woke narrative and it infuriates them. So they are using this Reese issue to backhandedly attack Mulkey.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:23 pm to Revelator
You could be right about this... in the post game presser, Mulkey was asked about the social media attention Reese was getting for the taunting, and she ultimately said she doesn't pay any attention to social media, that her coaches and staff run her social media accounts. She then said to the media something like 'Heck, I like you guys better than I like social media', which actually meant I really don't care for the media, but I care even less for social media.
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:26 pm to jlovel7
I think there is a lot of truth to what you're saying. The vast majority of the country had no idea who Caitlin Clark was a month ago, some maybe not even until Friday night.
The fact that chodes like Portnoy and Olbermann had twitter meltdowns about this belies how little they pay attention to the sport.
Countless media personalities and others have just been conditioned to believe Kim is evil incarnate for questioning the NCAA's Covid policy and not personally negotiating with Putin for Griner's release. So it's easy for them to pile on.
The fact that chodes like Portnoy and Olbermann had twitter meltdowns about this belies how little they pay attention to the sport.
Countless media personalities and others have just been conditioned to believe Kim is evil incarnate for questioning the NCAA's Covid policy and not personally negotiating with Putin for Griner's release. So it's easy for them to pile on.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:33 pm to GentleJackJones
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From the video shown, it looks like she wasn't directly staring down any particular player
Look again. Watch her eyes. She's clearly glaring at someone in particular.
Caitlin Clark Cena move
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:34 pm to Northshoretiger87
Tell me you never competed in anything without telling me you never competed in anything.
Talking smack goes back to the origins of *every* competition from Thermopylae forward.
In sports the fastest way to stop trash talking is pointing to the scoreboard. Caitlin couldn’t, LSU could.
Talking smack goes back to the origins of *every* competition from Thermopylae forward.
In sports the fastest way to stop trash talking is pointing to the scoreboard. Caitlin couldn’t, LSU could.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 1:39 pm to jlovel7
I finally got clarification on why the LSU players said Clark "disrespected" USC. Saw the video. I understand where they were coming from now. Clark would literally step away from the person she was defending and wave them off as if to say they weren't worth her effort. That was pretty bad.
Everything else now makes sense, minus Reese playing the race card. I haven't seen the media do that to her. I've seen the MSM hate her coach, but not her.
Everything else now makes sense, minus Reese playing the race card. I haven't seen the media do that to her. I've seen the MSM hate her coach, but not her.
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