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What's the difference between credit unions and retail banks?

Posted on 3/12/23 at 2:02 pm
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52093 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 2:02 pm
Will all the talk of failures and the like it begs the question of which one is better?

We have most of our savings in a local credit union. What's the best route to take to find out how they are leveraged, how their investments are structured, etc.

Since they aren't publicly traded, information is limited. No?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51587 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 2:09 pm to
They are still FDIC insured unless you have more than 250k in there. And if you trust the government to pay you back.

If you have more than 250k congrats but that's a lot of money to be earning 0.5% on or whatever
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51587 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:10 pm to
Or whatever the hell their insurance is called. The coverage is still the same.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22442 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:58 pm to
My basic understanding is that Credit Unions are non profits that are ‘owned’ by those with deposits. Credit Unions basically just work as a method to loan money out to its account holders.

Banks are out there to make money for their owner/ share holders.
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23546 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:41 pm to
Bank = FDIC
CU = NCUA

Insured for same


Just fyi, when the banks got bailed out last time , CUs did the same, only by each other vs the government
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13349 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:48 pm to
NCUA is the credit union equivalent to the FDIC for regular banks. It also protects up to $250k.

Forth are federally administered insurance funds but separate.



Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
8890 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 7:55 am to
Historically Credit Unions were tied to a single industry (Navy Federal), but many are community based now. As stated, they are non profit and primarily exist to provide loans to their members. They usually had slightly higher interest rates due to being non profit, but that has disappeared once they became community based.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16841 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 8:01 am to
The benefit of a credit union is they don’t get involved with all of the shady investment banking activities that the larger commercial banks do. They’re straight up depositing and lending institutions.

That said, what happened to SVP could happen anywhere based on liquidity. I’m with a credit union that has zero “held to maturity” assets which is about as good as you can get right now….based on my understanding of this whole mess.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5575 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:08 am to
Credit unions are owned by its account members. Retails banks are not. Most credit unions serve to provide financial services for employees of a certain industry. They typically offer better rates than retail banks.

Federal insurance works the same for credit unions as retail banks. If a bank or credit union is chartered in multiple states, then they must be regulated by the federal reserve. All banks regulated by the fed are insured by the FDIC (retail banks) or NCUA (credit unions).

Since you're a member of this credit union, they should provide you the information you're asking for, as you're technically part owner. If you know the credit union is in multiple states or if you see the NCUA logo at the bottom of their website, then they are insured by the federal government.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18261 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 9:41 am to
quote:

If you have more than 250k congrats but that's a lot of money to be earning 0.5% on or whatever 

Try 4.89% 30 month CD.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
2592 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:11 am to
If I have more than 250K in my local credit union, should I take some of that out and move to another account to spread our money around for insurance reasons?

Please forgive my ignorance, I am new to a lot of this after my father passed away.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25537 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:12 am to
Personally I have my cash spread between three institutions.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
2592 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:15 am to
Ok. This should not be too difficult for me to do I assume?
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1954 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 10:33 am to
if you are comparing local community banks to credit unions the only difference is CUs aren't taxed....if the NCUA was a strict as the FDIC CUs around the country would fail miserably because of lack of liquidity and huge mismatch in assets and liablities
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5521 posts
Posted on 3/13/23 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

If I have more than 250K in my local credit union, should I take some of that out and move to another account to spread our money around for insurance reasons?


I've never worked for a Credit Union so you may want to double check, but it depends on if you have a co-owner on the account(s) or not. For example, if you have an account with an FDIC bank that has $500K in it, and you have a co-owner on the account (has to be a person, can't be an entity), with equal withdrawal rights, then each person on the account has $250K insurance effectively meaning the entire $500K is insured.

If you have over $250K in an account with an FDIC (or NCUA) bank/credit union, and you're the only person on the account, then only funds up to $250K are insured. If this is your case, then yes, I would take whatever amount is over $250K and open an account at a separate bank/credit union.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
2592 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:19 pm to
Thank you for the insight. It is indeed an account with 2 equal owners.

I plan to head there to get some further info soon.
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