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re: Why don't suburbs like Central and Walker ban high density developments?

Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:51 am to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:51 am to
Are they expensive? I've driven by there a few times and it looked pretty nice but I don't know anything else about it.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 7:52 am to
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it was nice just a year and half ago. About 6 months ago, it changed ownership and has quickly taken a turn for the worse. Unsupervised kids everywhere, litter, they even stole the water hose from the car wash bay and the complex won’t replace it. Something changed but my rent just renewed at the same price 
I don't think it changed ownership but same thing happened to a friend who moved into Crystal Preserve (I think that is the name) in Nola. It was extremely noticeable and everyone told him it was when Section 8 moved in. He moved out and went to a rent house. It was a nice complex at first.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:00 am to
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How are you going to have employees for all of these places when the people making those wages can't afford to live in your Utopia?


Shove them elsewhere.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:02 am to
I think they are around 300k
There’s maybe 6ft between homes & the front yards are tiny

They would be great for retired folks looking for something easy to maintain


Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:02 am to
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I do love the TD complaint circle. First it's how ridiculous rent is in cities like New Orleans, but also no new apartment development which basically every study shows just points to higher rents.


There is likely a not so small amount of posters on here that wouldn’t mind seeing the Fair Housing Act get overturned.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:03 am to
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The shite they're doing on Buddy Ellis is mind-boggling stupid. That will be a massive drain on Denham and Walker schools in 10 years, and is already an infrastructure shortfall.


Buddy Ellis, Cockerham Road, and 16 up towards Watson, all have what I’d call hi density developments in progress. I just
Keep thinking about all the traffic once those hoods are filled. Woof.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:04 am to
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Already there. Denham Springs will be unrecognizable 10 years from now.


The last time I was in Denham it was unrecognizable.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:04 am to
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frick anybody that wants to buy a house for less than $300k.

why would someone living in a suburban area be opposed to this? there's no benefit to having poor people around.

if suburbs want to stay "nice", they're going to have to make sacrifices. something about eating and having cake.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:05 am to
Denham Springs has been an absolute shithole since I moved to Louisiana during the W administration
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:06 am to
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if suburbs want to stay "nice", they're going to have to make sacrifices. something about eating and having cake.

Other cities with many of the same problems BR has have figured it out - Jackson, Birmingham etc. I'm not sure why we can't seem to develop a nice suburb or two.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:06 am to
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Other cities with many of the same problems BR has have figured it out - Jackson, Birmingham etc.


How so?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:08 am to
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How so?

Strict zoning laws. I know in Madison they do not allow apartments or rentals. I believe that's the case in Mountain Brook, AL too.

Central is not that though. I think you'd have to start a new town from scratch to achieve this. There have been apartments and older/lower end neighborhoods in Central for a long time.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 8:10 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:09 am to
i have no facts or numbers to back this up, but i have to imagine places like mandeville/covington would have been better off without the massive developments like the academy/bww/etc on 12, lots of the stuff on 190, etc.

you need people to work those jobs and, well, those people aren't great for the community as a whole.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14044 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:12 am to
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Strict zoning laws. I know in Madison they do not allow apartments or rentals. I believe that's the case in Mountain Brook, AL too.



Madison also has most business made of brick. No signs higher than like 3-4 feet or so. It took taco bell literally decades to get to open up shop because the mayor didn't want an all night food place bringing in people to town late at night.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 8:17 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:18 am to
The problem with this area is that apartments almost always turn ghetto when they get older with very few exceptions. I think some places have a larger enough younger, white collar work force to keep that from happening to the same degree but the BR metro does not.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:18 am to
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Madison also has most business made of brick. No signs higher than like 3-4 feet or so. It took taco bell literally decades to get to open up pa shop because the mayor didn't want an all night food place bringing in people to town late at night.

personally, a suburb has to go "all out" like this or i have no interest. either make in nice, clean, pretty, safe, and sanitized... or don't bother.

i want to live in the city or not in the city, not some shitty jv version of the city/suburbs(what denham springs is to BR, or slidell to new orleans).
Posted by painman1
Member since Jan 2023
295 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:18 am to
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Count the number of Nissan Altimas in the parking area. If they number 10% or greater, you've got Section 8.


Classic LMAO
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68683 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:19 am to
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How are you going to have employees for all of these places when the people making those wages can't afford to live in your Utopia?

They can either commute or the people from the "utopia" can drive to the services. I prefer the latter. Screw all of this commercial development. If I want something, I'll drive a distance to it.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29329 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:49 am to
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personally, a suburb has to go "all out" like this or i have no interest. either make in nice, clean, pretty, safe, and sanitized... or don't bother.


If you think about it, many of the upscale communities in Westchester County (north of NYC) and Long Island did this, with the added advantage of having commuter rail connections to the city.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:45 am to
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If you think about it, many of the upscale communities in Westchester County (north of NYC) and Long Island did this, with the added advantage of having commuter rail connections to the city.

they for sure exist, just not really around here
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