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Escrow question

Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:19 pm
I have been a homeowner for over 15 years. We have had increases of around maxing out around 70-80 dollars a few times over the years but we just got our new summary and our payment is going up almost $250 a month, nearly a 12% increase over our old payment.

Admittedly I know next to nothing about tax code or any of this but is this normal? It makes no sense to me since property values are down, or at least certainly not way up, from this time last year. What gives?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:20 pm to
If you have to ask, you can’t afford it
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:20 pm to
Likely that your homeowners insurance went up a lot.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:20 pm to

Does your homeowner's insurance come out of your escrow account?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:21 pm to
Money Board
Posted by Knucklehead
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:22 pm to
I’ll bet your homeowner’s insurance payment comes out of that escrow, too.

Are you In Louisiana?
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
16398 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:22 pm to
Not sure. I’ve always either paid cash for a home or put at least 20% down so I don’t have to escrow.

How have you lived in a house for 15 years and not have at least 20% equity? It’s cheaper to take care of your taxes and insurance on your own.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
How have you owned a house and escowed funds for 15 years and have no idea how it works?
Posted by Slagathor
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Not sure. I’ve always either paid cash for a home or put at least 20% down so I don’t have to escrow.

How have you lived in a house for 15 years and not have at least 20% equity?



GD you're awful
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12783 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Not sure. I’ve always either paid cash for a home or put at least 20% down so I don’t have to escrow.

How have you lived in a house for 15 years and not have at least 20% equity?

Wat
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20866 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:24 pm to
Escrow accounts fluctuate year to year, as you noted. You should really break down the payment and see what the cause is. That’s a pretty big jump unless you have an ARM.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12783 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

That’s a pretty big jump unless you have an ARM.

If you have an ARM wouldn’t that just increase your interest payments (i.e. not your escrow)?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63204 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:26 pm to
Read your mortgage docs. There should be language in there about minimum escrow amounts and periodic reviews by the bank or mortgage servicer.

In short, they do periodic reviews and estimates of your insurance rates and taxes. They'll increase the amount of your payment if they estimate that your escrow is no longer covering the minimum amount based on those estimates.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5963 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:27 pm to
Property value may have gone up actually from the last number they used?
Are you in some type of new zoning area did the mines shift?
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:28 pm to
Yes, but it only went up $500 which would be barely over $40 a month.

ETA: Homeowner's insurance that is.

The property tax also went up a similar amount.

The primary jump was explained that I had a $376 dollar shortage in my account and that I also must maintain a minimum of $1400 in my escrow account leading to a $1776 shortage which comes out to almost $150 extra a month.

I do not have an ARM btw and do not know of any significant changes in zoning etc...
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 3:31 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74893 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:32 pm to
If this year's property tax bill went up 20% over last year, then the servicer has to raise your escrow by that shortfall amount, in addition to the fact it will be at least that much in the next year. So the tax portion of your escrow will go up a total of 40%.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21464 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:32 pm to
Main items I have seen collected in an escrow are homeowner's insurance, flood insurance, PMI & property taxes. Some companies only do a periodic review (mine is done annually) so if something hasn't been adjusted in a while you could see big swings. They may also have a minimum balance requirement.

Also, even if you think property values are down, it is possible the assessor's office has not updated their records on your house since you bought it 15 years ago.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:36 pm to
I'm an elitist but I'm not "sneer at people who don't get escrow waivers" elitist

Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35379 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:37 pm to
I have only been in this house since May 2021, my payment went up like $50 after the first year then almost $250 this year.

Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6340 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

I have been a homeowner for over 15 years
At some point during the mortgage you can tell the mortgage company to remove escrow. This means you will become responsible for paying insurance and taxes, but it's well worth it. Investigate, you might qualify to end escrow theft.
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