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re: Derek Carr seeking $35M or more per year in free agent contract

Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:38 pm to
I don’t really want him. Draft Hooker and see how we do
Posted by BowDownToLSU
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 5:49 am to
Posted by El Tigre Grande
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 8:07 am to
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Carr is a lot better.

This may be true but, is he 30mm better than Dalton?
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:10 am to
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30mm better than Dalton?

You think Dalton will play for $5 mm this year? Try 15
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 11:25 am to
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You think Dalton will play for $5 mm this year? Try 15


Who is giving him 15 a year. That’s starter money. A team will have to commit to him as the starter with that contract. Good Backup money is anywhere between 5-7 a year.
This post was edited on 2/26/23 at 11:29 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 11:28 am to
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This may be true but, is he 30mm better than Dalton?


Carr will probably get around 30. Maybe a little more or a little less. But probably around that number.

Pretty sure Dalton can be had for 8-10 and if not move in to someone ejse like Teddy B or Baker.

And Carr is still not 20 million a year better than Dalton.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 11:56 am to
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You think Dalton will play for $5 mm this year? Try 15




Dalton won't get 15 mil.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 3:34 pm to
Maybe not for 31 teams
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 4:01 pm to
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Unless you have a ready made super bowl team, a QB like Carr will destroy a franchise


What an absurd exaggeration.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 4:24 pm to
If Carr wanted that much money he should have been more amiable to a trade.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 4:30 pm to
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If Carr wanted that much money he should have been more amiable to a trade.


The purpose of a trade for the team taking him would have been to save money from it going to a bidding war.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 4:52 pm to
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Dalton won't get 15 mil.

Jameis Winston makes $15mm
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 5:33 pm to
Let’s overpay another qb for years for average results. shite why not. #frickingretarded.
Carr isn’t money wise better than the QBs we have now.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 6:41 pm to
Dalton will get 10-13 imo.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9080 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:12 pm to
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Jameis Winston makes $15mm


Pretty sure we were the only dumasses that were giving him that contract. No one else would have.
This post was edited on 2/26/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by paulbeasy
Member since Feb 2023
598 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 9:18 pm to
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Who is giving him 15 a year. That’s starter money.


This is hilarious. In what world?
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27414 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 10:39 pm to
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Jameis Winston makes $15mm



To be a starter. Jamesi looked good the year before. It was really a 1 yr 15 mil contract.

Imo dalton will not get a guaranteed 15 mil deal from anyone cause no one will be counting on him to start.

I could see him maybe getting 10 mil with half guaranteed.

He got 3 mil guaranteed this year.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9080 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 11:30 pm to
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This is hilarious. In what world?


You should do some research first before laughing.

The 17th highest paid qb in 2022 was our very own Crab legs making 15.2 million.

The 18th was Tom Brady making 15 million. Jimmy G was next making 10. That’s smack in the middle of 32 teams, that means almost half had starters that made less than 10 million last year.

That’s the world I live in. The one where I know my shite.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2023/02/16/nfl-quarterback-salaries-2022-season
This post was edited on 2/26/23 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9080 posts
Posted on 2/26/23 at 11:42 pm to
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To be a starter. Jamesi looked good the year before. It was really a 1 yr 15 mil contract.


He played ok under Payton, but what team was giving him that contract? Almost every team had their starter already or drafted a rookie and went with a cheaper vet than Winston.

It’s part of the reason it took forever for Baker to get traded. There was really no place for him to go that could commit to him as a starter. I have a feeling this year will be the same. It’s why Dalton would be lucky to get 10.

Saints just overpayed market value. It’s why Dalton will likely get less from us if we go in that direction again b/c they made the mistake overpaying Winston.
This post was edited on 2/26/23 at 11:44 pm
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7189 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:47 am to
If you’re the Saints, don’t sign anyone to a high money long term deal. Focus on drafting players, and work on clearing cap space. Our division is so bad right now we can do that and not go 0-17. If we keep kicking the can down the road, the rest of the division will get better and we will be in a world of hurt. Even with a conservative long term strategy such as this one, it’s possible to still make the playoffs, simply because the division is so weak. It’s the best you could have hoped for when you started backloading all the contracts years ago.
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