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re: Dale Brown Court Controversy
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:00 pm to LSUDAN1
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:00 pm to LSUDAN1
quote:I won't touch the rest of your post, but did you really?
I liked Brady ball.
Brady was so inconsistent, never know what you're going to get season to season.. And I do appreciate him as a coach better now than when he was the coach - hindsight. But that stated, when offense was anywhere off, we're getting crushed. Defense was coached well, but that offense...
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:05 pm to Theodore Links Watch
I don’t get the hate for Dale Brown nor the side that says Sue Gunther is undeserving. Coach Gunther was the salt of the earth the few times I interacted with her and I doubt there are many people who love LSU as much as Coach Brown. I understand that he may have rubbed some people the wrong way who saw him as a self promoter but the bottom line was he had to be in order to get his program the recognition it deserved.
Coach Gunther’s memory is being tarnished by the political stupidity and I feel she would be embarrassed by all the attention regarding her name on the court. She and Brown were polar opposites but both got the job done against less than ideal circumstances. I am appreciative of both and will always be grateful for both of their accomplishments. RIP Coach Gunther.
As LSU fans we all love our school I just wish we weren’t so quick to tear it and each other down. Can’t we all just focus our hate on Alabama?
Coach Gunther’s memory is being tarnished by the political stupidity and I feel she would be embarrassed by all the attention regarding her name on the court. She and Brown were polar opposites but both got the job done against less than ideal circumstances. I am appreciative of both and will always be grateful for both of their accomplishments. RIP Coach Gunther.
As LSU fans we all love our school I just wish we weren’t so quick to tear it and each other down. Can’t we all just focus our hate on Alabama?
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:09 pm to LSUDAN1
I couldn’t care less about this court renaming thing and typically think Mascona is a know it all, try hard. However, what he just said on AFR is spot on. Louisianians just accept the fact that we suck in pretty much every aspect and vote for corrupt politicians (JBE, SWB, destroya, etc) that do everything for personal and monetary gain and nothing for the average citizen.
The sad part is that voters won’t do anything to change it and accept it as just a fact of life here in our home state. It’s a damn shame we aren’t what we could be.
The sad part is that voters won’t do anything to change it and accept it as just a fact of life here in our home state. It’s a damn shame we aren’t what we could be.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:14 pm to Theodore Links Watch
It’s a complete insult and slap in the face to Dale Brown who is deserving of it!
This is nothing less than a total failure if it goes through on that part of LSU leadership
This is nothing less than a total failure if it goes through on that part of LSU leadership
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:16 pm to LSUstephen17
They went political to get Dale’s name on the court and now are pissed someone else is doing it.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:25 pm to HighRoller
Call it the DSBG Court. Dale Sue Brown Gunter Court. Just to make fun of Dale and his PR team’s presumptuous asses.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:31 pm to LSUstephen17
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It’s a complete insult and slap in the face to Dale Brown who is deserving of it!
How? This affects Dale brown absolutely zero percent. His name is still there. It will still be there.
Does Dale feel bad for diminishing the Maravich name?
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:31 pm to WAC13
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Louisianians just accept the fact that we suck in pretty much every aspect and vote for corrupt politicians (JBE, SWB, destroya, etc) that do everything for personal and monetary gain and nothing for the average citizen. The sad part is that voters won’t do anything to change it and accept it as just a fact of life here in our home state. It’s a damn shame we aren’t what we could be.
And what in the actual frick does any of what to just posted have to do with renaming the court?
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:36 pm to poochie
Why can't it be Dale Brown Court when the men play. Sue Gunter court when the women play?
FWIW, they shouldn't change anything.
FWIW, they shouldn't change anything.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:40 pm to GumboPot
We need to name the court after her. And I know she did a re-cycle cringe thing. That's how I feel about LSU Basketball.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:16 pm to Theodore Links Watch
If they'd stop naming every damn thing after anybody with a pulse, they wouldn't have this problem. Listen Up!: No statues and no asset naming until after they have gone to meet their maker! Geez.... this is getting worse than participation trophies!
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:43 pm to poochie
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And what in the actual frick does any of what to just posted have to do with renaming the court?
As I said in my post, it has to do with what Mascona said when speaking about the court renaming issue. This is a symptom of a greater problem we’re dealing with in Louisiana.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:55 pm to drizztiger
quote:
I won't touch the rest of your post, but did you really?
In 10 seasons at LSU, Brady compiled a 184–126 record, including two SEC Regular Season Titles and four NCAA tournament appearances.
May have been different if Dale wouldn't have put program in a bad position to where Brady had to take a few years to turn around. Some good years even though he was handed a turd from everyone's beloved Dale Brown.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:02 pm to LSUDAN1
quote:Us basketball fans can talk circle around each other.
In 10 seasons at LSU, Brady compiled a 184–126 record, including two SEC Regular Season Titles and four NCAA tournament appearances.
May have been different if Dale wouldn't have put program in a bad position to where Brady had to take a few years to turn around. Some good years even though he was handed a turd from everyone's beloved Dale Brown.
If Brady was coaching this team, I would be hell yeah.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:01 am to drizztiger
I can’t stand Bobby Knight but:
LINK
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After Indiana rallied for the victory, Knight said, "I was worried about losing until I looked down the floor and saw Dale Brown. Then I knew we had a chance."
LINK
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:00 am to Theodore Links Watch
Neither deserve or had the successes here to warrant a court named after them.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:28 am to LSUDAN1
quote:
n 10 seasons at LSU, Brady compiled a 184–126 record, including two SEC Regular Season Titles and four NCAA tournament appearances.
May have been different if Dale wouldn't have put program in a bad position to where Brady had to take a few years to turn around. Some good years even though he was handed a turd from everyone's beloved Dale Brown.
Brady never even gets consideration for the job if LSU wasn't on probation. That was truly a situation where LSU just had to find someone who would take the job, not the current situation where non-basketball fans think that was the case with McMahon.
Dale had his shortcomings, without question. And his perceived pettiness in the last few years has been ridiculous. But it is a fact that LSU basketball was never better or more popular than the 15 year stretch between 1979 - 1993. During that time baseball was starting to come into its own, but was still largely an afterthought among LSU fans. Football was, at best, inconsistent. At worst, just flat out bad. LSU basketball WAS the big attraction on campus and in town.
Does that mean the court should have been named after him? IMO, no. But if it HAD to be named for someone, Brown built and oversaw the best period of LSU basketball in its 100+ year history.
As for the anger about the probation, that's a lot of revisionist history...or just people who weren't alive at that time to remember the college basketball landscape. Was Brown "cheating"? Of course. So was everyone else at that time (sound familiar?) Larry Brown won a national championship at Kansas...he also got Kansas put on serious probation. Banned from NCAA Tournament the year after they won the NC, in addition to other sanctions. Eddie Sutton got Kentucky put on significant probation. Florida got put on probation in the early 90's. Hell, even UCLA got in NCAA trouble right after they won the National Championship.
Brady's tenure can be described in two words "wildly inconsistent". One season he could have one of the worst teams in the SEC. The next season he would win the league, then immediately fall right back to the bottom. That was over the course of 11 years...well after the initial sanctions when he took the job ran its course.
In the end though, this is all fabricated controversy and ridiculous political grandstanding. It the President and AD had any stones at all they would simply say "the court has already been named after Brown. We aren't changing it to placate the wants of one person. If you don't like it, get over it." I doubt Kim Mulkey gives enough of a shite to get into the "controversy". And McMahon currently has men's basketball headed so quickly to apathy and irrelevance that there aren't enough fans showing up at the PMAC to care one way or the other.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:29 am to TBoy@LSU
quote:
I can’t stand Bobby Knight but:
quote:
After Indiana rallied for the victory, Knight said, "I was worried about losing until I looked down the floor and saw Dale Brown. Then I knew we had a chance."
LINK
Im sure you posted this article to disparage Dale Brown but it does quite the opposite imo.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:38 am to L5ut1g3r
Sue and Dale have almost identical resumes outside the conference championships which don't mean anything when none of those teams achieved anything in the national tourney. I don't care either way but it's hard to make a case for one and not the other unless it's personal.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:47 am to 5iveEuax4eaux
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conference championships which don't mean anything
Conference championships are a huge deal to everyone in the SEC except Kentucky.
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