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re: The Last of Us S1 EP3 Thread - “Long Long Time” - NO GAMER SPOILERS

Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:43 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:43 am to
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Was that gas plant seriously able to prop up Bill’s lifestyle for 20 years? Seems like something upstream of that facility would’ve gone caput immediately and him opening a single valve (lol) would have been useless.

I laughed a bit at that as well. But I give them credit for at least trying to address those kinds of details - also when Bill is at Home Depot, the power goes out, and he says “huh, that was quick.”

That said, I do think it’s possible that simply opening a valve could provide them with gas for a long time if he’s only using it to cook (e.g. if he’s using a gasoline or diesel generator). You could probably live off of the residual pipeline pressure for a fair amount of time. I don’t know about 20 years, though.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:46 am to
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I laughed a bit at that as well. But I give them credit for at least trying to address those kinds of details - also when Bill is at Home Depot, the power goes out, and he says “huh, that was quick.”

That said, I do think it’s possible that simply opening a valve could provide them with gas for a long time if he’s only using it to cook (e.g. if he’s using a gasoline or diesel generator). You could probably live off of the residual pipeline pressure for a fair amount of time. I don’t know about 20 years, though.


Based on how much prepping he did, I'd assume he already had gas stored and was just setting up to use whatever other resources he could for as long as possible before eating into his stores.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:50 am to
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Yeah, I'll walk that back I know nothing about the game fwiw


In the game they’re a lot less cordial and sophisticated. They’re living much more like two people holed up during the apocalypse would. They break up before, frank gets bit and kills himself before we ever get there. They also seem to fight a lot and have scenarios like this often. Bill finds out he’s dead when Joel and Ellie return from some scavenging and find his body. Bill is similar to the show in terms of his rugged/prepped side but we don’t see any of the sophistication like we did. Obviously we never see frank.

My issue is they really did retcon the character. I wouldn’t have minded seeing them and their story before Joel and Ellie arrive. But the story we got last night was basically a totally different set of characters with only a loose association to the game.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:51 am to
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But I give them credit for at least trying to address those kinds of details

That's all I ask with shite like that. I remember an episode one time of TWD where the wasting of ammo was so blatant I posted in the thread that if they'd only have thrown in a single line of dialogue about how "We need to make more rounds.." or something like that, it would've made it make much more sense (and I was eventually relieved to see them address that with Eugene later).

Do I think he could've just coasted for two decades siphoning gas (liquid and gaseous)? Nah. But at least they addressed it and tried to give an explanation for it. Because had they not, we'd all be sitting here blasting it for how unrealistic it is that he still has fuel.

And I do agree that the worst part of the episode was raiding of the town scene, and that should've been the most interesting.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:52 am to
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jlovel7

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In the game ......

Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:54 am to
Are we not allowed to discuss it once we are totally past any spoilers?
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:54 am to
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In the game


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NO GAMER SPOILERS


Some people literally can't help themselves.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 10:55 am
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:55 am to
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And I do agree that the worst part of the episode was raiding of the town scene, and that should've been the most interesting.


i would have taken an 80 minute episode of bill setting up his fortress and supplies and it would have been a better episode in my view
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:56 am to
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Some people literally can't help themselves.
nothing has been spoiled past any episode. you're discussing a show based on a video game and if you say something that is wrong based on the source material that is proven true in the game you will be told about it.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:57 am to
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Some people literally can't help themselves.


Those weren't spoilers.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27570 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:59 am to
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And Jesus, MLS. You might want to take a break for a bit, dude.


But he is right. That shite was cringe AF and not necessary at all. I wouldn't mind if they left out all sex in the show - especially that. It was disgusting.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:00 am to
Also, while the gay v. straight thing truly didn't make a difference to me, it was odd seeing Ron Swanson kiss a dude at first . Got used to after a bit, but he'll forever be Ron to me and the first part of his story in the episode felt very "Ron Swanson-ish". Prepper, hates the government, laughs at zombie getting head blown off while eating red meat, etc.



This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:01 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:00 am to
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It’s Dick in arse shite shoving sodomy.
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Holy shite

Touche.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:03 am to
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quote:

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In the game
NO GAMER SPOILERS
Some people literally can't help themselves
His point makes sense. How is it still a "spoiler," after it has already happened in the show? Illogical.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18853 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:05 am to
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especially that. It was disgusting

I am so sorry that shirtless men disgust you so much. You must come home with PTSD after an afternoon at the beach or the pool.

Maybe I just somehow watched a censored version of the episode. I missed all the booty sex and flopping dicks that a few posters keep bringing up.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:08 am
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:08 am to
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His point makes sense. How is it still a "spoiler," after it has already happened in the show? Illogical.


Honestly when I read "in the game" I just stopped reading since it's the non game thread.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:12 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:10 am to
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His point makes sense. How is it still a "spoiler," after it has already happened in the show? Illogical.

I think the general idea is that this thread is for no game talk at all, only show talk.

Not "differences between the show and game" or anything having to do with the game.

Because this show is based on a widely-consumed source material, it will go the same route as things like TWD and GoT did, where the "readers/players" are discussing the show on a different plane than those who have not consumed the materials. And you'll have game players in here "guiding" the rest of us just like the fricking a-hole readers did with GoT.

People literally fall into two categories: ones that have played the game and are familiar with the source materials, and ones who have not. Seems simple enough to post in whichever thread you fall into, but I am in the minority with that line of thinking.

And for the record, I'm not saying any gamer has spoiled anything big in here yet. But it's almost inevitable when you have the foresight of the source material. It won't be long before people are "predicting" huge plot points, for example. Personally, I don't need someone in here like fricking OML used to do in non-reader GoT thread, where he'd try to hype us up for big plot events and guide us through them.

Not to mention the obvious of: if this isn't the last we've seen of Bill and Frank (i.e. flashbacks in future episodes), then discussing what "already happened" in the game could potentially ruin something in the future as well.

That's just my $0.02 though.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:13 am to
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I am so sorry that shirtless men disgust you so much. You must come home with PTSD after an afternoon at the beach or the pool.

Maybe I just somehow watched a censored version of the episode. I missed all the booty sex and flopping dicks that a few posters keep bringing up.

Dude, we get it. You weren't bothered by it. Congrats. But some people were, and that's okay. And some people felt like it was gratuitous, and that's okay too.

I love how you frame it as simply "shirtless men," as if that's even remotely what it was. While it wasn't graphic gay sex (as so eloquently detailed by MLS), it was a naked man in bed tugging on the towel of another man, and then naked men lying on top of one another making out in bed. If you're gonna call shite out, at least make it accurate. And if you can't understand why some people may not want to see that, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:14 am to
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That said, I do think it’s possible that simply opening a valve could provide them with gas for a long time if he’s only using it to cook (e.g. if he’s using a gasoline or diesel generator). You could probably live off of the residual pipeline pressure for a fair amount of time. I don’t know about 20 years, though.


We also don't know what all he obtained by bartering with Tess/Joel (which they obviously did after their initial lunch meeting in 2007).

Might've been much easier to come by in the earlier years through abandoned houses, cars, other stations in the proximity, etc. When Joel was making the sell to barter, he had a lot of access to things he doesn't have now.

I just assumed what he didn't have to utilize on the property he bartered for with them over the years. And developed that relationship with them.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:15 am
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4076 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:15 am to
You may be right about the MS.

I took the rigidity and insomnia (hinted at) as Parkinson's, but it could very well MS too. Definitely a neurological disorder.
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