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re: I just read Kevin Costner turned down the Andy role in Shawshank for Waterworld
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:46 pm to Saint Alfonzo
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:46 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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Tim Robbins fit that role perfecttly.
Robbins brought a vulnerability to the role that was perfect
Costner could not have done that kind of vulnerability. No way Costner agrees to play a character that was repeatedly raped, but that scenario with the sisters is crucial to Andy's storyline
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:51 pm to Baylor
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he would have been regarded as the GOAT actor of all time .
GOAT = Humphrey Bogart
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Humphrey DeForest Bogart (December 25, 1899 – January 14, 1957) was an American actor. He is widely regarded as a cultural icon. The American Film Institute ranked Bogart as the greatest male star in the history of American cinema.
after that, there are several that are better than Costner.
Spencer Tracy
Jimmy Stewart
Henry Fonda
Marlon Brando
Paul Newman
Morgan Freeman
Tom Hank
Denzel Washington
and so many more that IMHO are better than Costner.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:56 pm to WaltWhite504
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My guess is Kevin's residuals today on Waterworld are much higher than Tim's for Shawshank.
That's an interesting question, because Shawshank seems to on at least one network channel everyday, and I stop what I am doing and start watching it every time I find it on the guide.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:17 pm to LB84
quote:i will go to the mat for both movies. dont care who much they made or didnt make, i like them both a lot
Couple of bad apocalyptic movies he did there with Waterworld and The Postman.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 3:51 pm to AUFANATL
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Cable Guy is another movie that as much better than all of the hate it got
I always liked Cable Guy from the beginning
Posted on 1/24/23 at 4:41 pm to tigerfan84
quote:Bellows' performance is one of my favorite things ever, but Pitt would've been amazing in that role.
A young Brad Pitt nearly played inmate Tommy Williams, himself another character that was the beneficiary of Darabont's retooling of the original novella. In the book, Tommy exchanges evidence that would free Andy to the Warden for a transfer to a nicer prison, but Darabont ups the ante of Norton's villainy and introduces some cinematic violence into the story by riddling the kid with bullets at Norton's direction. In a USA Today piece, Pitt remarked he has no regrets about passing on the project, and Darabont was happy with Gil Bellows' debut in the role.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:06 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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And Sean Connery turned down Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings movies for The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
And we were rewarded with one of the best performances ever.
Sean Connery couldn't have pulled that role off the way Ian McKellen did.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:11 pm to Baylor
Costner isn’t a great actor. He is OK but tends to drag down a lot of what he does compared to the other actors involved.
Tim Robbins gave a much better performance as Andy than Costner would have been capable of.
Tim Robbins gave a much better performance as Andy than Costner would have been capable of.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:26 pm to teke184
Tin Cup and Yellowstone. Those are ok. Otherwise I can't stand Costner or anything he's in.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:28 pm to BuckyCheese
Silverado and The Big Chill.
(He is a corpse in The Big Chill because Kasdan left his one scene on the cutting room floor, hence casting him in Silverado the next year)
(He is a corpse in The Big Chill because Kasdan left his one scene on the cutting room floor, hence casting him in Silverado the next year)
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:42 pm to AggieHank86
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But would Shawshank have been as good a film, if Costner had taken the role?
Personally, I think the actual casting was perfection. Things tend to work out.
But doesn't it always work that way? When you hear about who else was considered or passed on a role in a popular movie, you can never quite imagine that person in the role anyway. At least that's how I feel 90% of the time.
Actually, with this one, I think Costner could have worked just as well. I like the cast as is, but could definitely picture Costner in that role.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:43 pm to beauchristopher
quote:too bad Brandon Lee wasn't alive, he'd have owned that role
Will Smith turned down Neo in The Matrix for The Wild Wild West.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:51 pm to Upperdecker
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Andy needed to be more timid and low key than Costner probably could have portrayed believably
Dufresne might have been low key, but he absolutely was NOT the least bit timid at any point in the film. IMO, he’s one of the most admirable and courageous characters in film history.
He didn’t breakdown the first night at Shawshank like Red expected, fought back against the Sisters (even taunted them), never moped around in spite of having a very promising future unjustly stripped from him, defiantly turned the music up when the guards told him to cut it off, and had the balls to risk his life escaping through a tight shitpipe.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:52 pm to Baylor
Brad Pitt turned down the role of Tommy.
Regarding Costner, I think he and Morgan Freeman had excellent chemistry in Robin Hood, so I’m sure it would have been fine with the two in Shawshank (my favorite film bar none). However… Tim Robbins IS Andy, no question.
Regarding Costner, I think he and Morgan Freeman had excellent chemistry in Robin Hood, so I’m sure it would have been fine with the two in Shawshank (my favorite film bar none). However… Tim Robbins IS Andy, no question.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:49 pm to Baylor
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Kevin Costner
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Tombstone
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:15 pm to Baylor
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he would have been regarded as the GOAT actor of all time .
No. Not even close
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:24 pm to Baylor
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Baylor
Probably the worst take I’ve ever read on this board…think about that.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:43 pm to supatigah
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Robbins brought a vulnerability to the role that was perfect
Costner would have been too alpha for the role in my opinion.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:01 pm to Baylor
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waterworld which was his worst movie ever
It wasn’t so bad just very expensive and lower than expected returns.
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And he has not been the same since . He career took a huge decline after that movie .
That’s not necessarily true. Many movies since then, along the range of decent to good.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:03 pm to AggieHank86
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I know that I am in the distinct minority, but I actually enjoy Waterworld.
Same.
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(Of course, I have also had a lifelong crush on Jeanne Tripplehorn
Same especially those pencil eraser nips.
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