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re: One less thug robbing people in Houston

Posted on 1/7/23 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7940 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 4:34 pm to
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That was completely different.


The final shot is what got the pharmacist convicted and the final shot in this case is the problematic one.

The facts are similar imo.
Posted by MugMan
Member since Dec 2022
442 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 5:30 pm to
Funny how trained cops are allowed to empty mags into a suspect, but a civilian in self defense is supposed to back off after the suspect is down.

It's total hypocrisy.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9207 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:10 pm to
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The final shot is what got the pharmacist convicted and the final shot in this case is the problematic one.


quote:

Ersland walk back into the building, step over the body of the unconscious Parker and walk towards another drawer where he retrieved a second handgun. The video shows Ersland lean over Parker’s body and fire six more shots into the teenager.


You are citing a case where there are no similarities to this one beyond guns and dead people.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
727 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:49 pm to
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You are citing a case where there are no similarities to this one beyond guns and dead people.


They are pretty different, but the next thing they’ll have in common will be grand jury proceedings.
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
935 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:57 pm to
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However, if it comes out the weapon was not an actual firearm, it will be another tough road to argue against at trial.
I would think this would easily be defended on the merit that everyone gave up their money because they were afraid of what the savage would do with the gun he had in his hand if they didn't.

The last few shots will most probably be viewed as excessive.

Hopefully dude can get some film of the Sherriff in Polk County FL saying you can shoot evil enough.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42645 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:57 pm to
That dude has definitely killed before
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
39066 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:29 pm to
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Good guy is likely okay here. However, if it comes out the weapon was not an actual firearm, it will be another tough road to argue against at trial.


I think he's okay here too. It doesn't matter if the gun is fake if the victim believed it was real.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
34128 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:34 pm to
Excessive shots in an armed assault leading to self defense should be a misdemeanor

If the first shots that are deadly are protected, “excessive” charges are too harsh. Police get protection here and they are trained, why can’t citizens?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24759 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:40 pm to
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jclem11


You sound boostered
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37390 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:43 pm to
The dude was probably good until the last shot after he took the gun. That was basically a frick you execution shot at that point.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37390 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:45 pm to
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I hope nothing happens to the guy but I sure wouldn't want to face a jury of my "peers" for that in BR


You’re fricked if you’re relying on a dozen dumbasses from Baton Rouge to decide your fate.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 7:47 pm
Posted by GFunkEra
Member since Dec 2022
187 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:53 pm to
Glad fat man in corner didn’t get hit. Looks like he was in line of sight of shooting.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:01 pm to
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Be interesting to see what happens, he fired 5 more shots at close range after gun flew out of the suspects hand. One of those was execution style.

Not that the guy didn't deserve it...just not self defense at that point.


Only a moron would down vote your correct and reasonable post.

That dude will end up pleading guilty to manslaughter.
Posted by MugMan
Member since Dec 2022
442 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:07 pm to
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That dude will end up pleading guilty to manslaughter.


Only if he has the shittiest lawyer in the world.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112904 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:11 pm to
Good luck bringing this case against a Hispanic dude in Harris county
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:23 pm to
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Only if he has the shittiest lawyer in the world.


You can say all the ignorant shite you want on the internet. I'm not mad at you.

If I'm him, I'm already in Mexico.

His only chance is an activist on the jury, and I wouldn't trust that a JNOV wouldn't happen if I got lucky with the jury.

You can't murder people on camera after defending yourself.

I'm team good guy too, but he's an idiot.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7940 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:53 pm to
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You are citing a case where there are no similarities to this one beyond guns and dead people.


The similarities are the excessive shots, dude.

How do you not see this?

This case the issue is the last 2 shots which could be characterized as excessive.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27387 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:39 pm to
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Police get protection here and they are trained, why can’t citizens?



He probably IS an ex-cop. Was my first impression.
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