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Posted on 1/6/23 at 2:37 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16596 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 2:37 am
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By Steven Zeitchik
January 5, 2023 at 6:51 p.m. EST

More than half a million people who deposited money with collapsed crypto lender Celsius Network have been dealt a major blow to their hopes of recovering their funds, with the judge in the company’s bankruptcy case ruling that the money belongs to Celsius and not to the depositors.

The judge, Martin Glenn, found that Celsius’s terms of use — the lengthy contracts that many websites publish but few consumers read — meant “the cryptocurrency assets became Celsius’s property.”

The ruling underscores the Wild West nature of the unregulated crypto industry. On Thursday, New York Attorney General Letitia James moved to impose a kind of order, or at least legal repercussions, on Celsius founder Alex Mashinsky, whom she accused in a lawsuit of defrauding hundreds of thousands of consumers.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29309 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 7:03 am to
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"Zero risk"

-rocket31
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Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24816 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 7:28 am to
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nope go to celsius right now and deposit usdc, 13%

or go to blockfi which is backed by fidelity, 8.6% on usdc


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rocket31


Oops
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51572 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 7:59 am to
Basically every TOS at every crypto exchange including Coinbase
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 8:00 am
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82060 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:33 am to
This is the year where everyone learned not to hold their coins on an exchange. Still people will be idiots and this will happen again in the future
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:02 am to
I saw a friend sent me a photo of Ledger being sold in Best Buy a few weeks ago. “Not your keys” is definitely common knowledge in the crypto world now.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:22 am to
Wild West Crypto is risky.

Insert virtual tumble weed here.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16596 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 1:02 pm to
Should the USA even do anything? People knew the risk.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89354 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 1:22 pm to
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quote:
"Zero risk"

-rocket31
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NEVER GETS OLD!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1605 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 4:48 pm to
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quote: "Zero risk" -rocket31 Source


Should sound alarms in anyone’s head when someone says this. But people love to make excuses and ignore red flags.

This applies to more things than crypto, btw. I’m not singling them out, by any means.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11520 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:37 pm to
Not your keys, not your coins.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:30 am to
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But people love to make excuses and ignore red flags.


Those flags were more red than the tide at Omaha Beach. Offering 13% when nowhere else can even approach that figure? It's straight out of the Bernie Madoff playbook.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:51 am to
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Offering 13% when nowhere else can even approach that figure? It's straight out of the Bernie Madoff playbook.


Very true. Also the Allen Stanford high yield CD scheme.

And although Mr. Rocket was one of the main (and loudest) offenders, when some of us mentioned too good to be true yields, the response from more people than just Rocket was “OK, boomer”.
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:52 am to
"Not your keys, not your coins"

Richard Heart has been saying this for years.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11520 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Richard Heart has been saying this for years.


You mean like this?

Twitter
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20695 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:42 pm to
Wait until he gets hacked. Zero help and no accountability from hardware like Trezor …
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94815 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:57 pm to
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People knew the risk.



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