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re: Is Russia going to be ok with US Bradleys to Ukraine? No worries for escalation?
Posted on 1/5/23 at 7:57 pm to sta4ever
Posted on 1/5/23 at 7:57 pm to sta4ever
Russia is a mafia run gas station with an economy only slightly larger than New York state. Their soldiers while physically fit are not that well trained, their logistics suck and their coordination of forces ( air and ground) is really bad....and there was a time about 7 or 8 months ago where I thought they were formidable, now, not so much
Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:16 pm to LookSquirrel
quote:The Russians are the white people with a specific goal Khazarian/Ukrainians are killing them for 350 year old purposes of the Khazarian jews messiah, Sabbatai Zevi.
The Ukrainians seem to be somewhat more-dedicated to their cause than were "our Afghan allies."
They are whiter too. So, there's that.
Sabateans.
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This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:25 pm to Bass Tiger
Russia understands the game. The US wants to sell some Bradleys.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:34 pm to Bass Tiger
I doubt Russia sees an older APCs as escalation . Same for missile defense systems.
If we or other western countries supplies weapons that could target well onsite Russia the. I would think that was an escalation.
IE, Ukraine already has weapons similar to the Bradley’s. Older but similar. Long range weapons will add something not currently there.
If we or other western countries supplies weapons that could target well onsite Russia the. I would think that was an escalation.
IE, Ukraine already has weapons similar to the Bradley’s. Older but similar. Long range weapons will add something not currently there.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:01 pm to AggieHank86
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I don't think that APCs are the weapon systems that have the Russians sweating in their sleep.
It is giving shareholders of BAE Systems golden dreamy dreams though.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:11 pm to Bass Tiger
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What could go wrong?
Nothing. Absolutely .
81 million votes for the current admin, sooo much experience in gov, int’l affairs, geo politics…
We’re in great hands!!!
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:29 pm to Bass Tiger
US crews in the newest Bradleys would be formidable. I don't think the Ukrainians will get new stuff, and they won't be as well trained at US crews.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:33 pm to Bass Tiger
OMG if Russia goes off the rails because of Ukraine getting not tanks lol.
Next up is air planes from the 1970s (aka F16s). Shouldn’t be a problem for Russia and it’s fifth Gen fighters if they actually had any in decent numbers.
Next up is air planes from the 1970s (aka F16s). Shouldn’t be a problem for Russia and it’s fifth Gen fighters if they actually had any in decent numbers.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:36 pm to Bass Tiger
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Is Russia going to be ok with US Bradleys to Ukraine? No worries for escalation?
I’m sure Russia is quivering in their boots at the thought of civilian Ukrainians piloting 1980’s infantry fighting vehicles.
As pointed out already, Ukraine already has Soviet and Russian-era BMP’s. The US giving them mothballed equipment won’t escalate shite.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:26 pm to Loserman
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No one hs ever been scared by a Bradley Fighting Vehicle
A lotta Iraqi soldiers were
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:27 pm to Indefatigable
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As pointed out already, Ukraine already has Soviet and Russian-era BMP’s. The US giving them mothballed equipment won’t escalate shite.
There is some good tech in the Bradley. Thermal optics are a major benefit on the current battlefield.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:29 pm to Bass Tiger
I heard that we are also sending some Cessnas. Russia probably shitting itself.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 6:59 am to cardboardboxer
It's that we are not sending US aircraft that has allowed the Ukrainians to have the success on the ground that they have. Russia and Ukraine both have MiGs and the Russians are worried about shooting down their own planes.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 7:40 am to Bass Tiger
Considering what they gave to the North Vietnamese, Cuba, Iraq, and others I don't see an issue. As long as they don't wind up getting sold or Biden getting 10%.
We'd all like to see this end before someone f's up big time. But the Bradley isn't like sending f-35s.
We'd all like to see this end before someone f's up big time. But the Bradley isn't like sending f-35s.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 7:45 am to GnashRebel
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There is some good tech in the Bradley. Thermal optics are a major benefit on the current battlefield.
I think having APCs to protect your soldiers during deployment is not a small thing. Just having the ability to get ground forces up to the battlefield without losing half to small arms fire/machine guns, grenades etc. is the first step in pushing the Russians out.
Posted on 1/6/23 at 8:21 am to Bass Tiger
If you have never seen it, The Pentagon Wars with Kelsey Grammar is a great movie about the development of the Bradley IFV and the military-industrial complex.
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