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Learning a language for a trip

Posted on 12/23/22 at 9:59 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67198 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 9:59 am
I have a wedding to go to in Mexico next fall. I can only speak a little spanish that I learned in high school and from working on construction sites or in public schools with a large immigrant population. I’d like to be more or less fluent by the time I go on this trip.

What are the best ways posters have used to learn a language before a trip? I’ve tried duolingo, but the free version was very frustrating.
This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 10:01 am
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5508 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 10:16 am to
I haven't had luck with duolingo or rosetta stone either.

what has worked for me is to turn on a spanish-language radio station or even something like telemundo on tv to get used to hearing the language.

for reading, get your hands on tabloids or simple publications written in spanish. those are usually written with a simple vocabulary and syntax. another option is to look for foreign-language nudie mags, which makes learning the language more appealing!
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
1266 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 10:20 am to
I used duolingo and was able to learn how read French but never could speak it. Needed someone I could talk with and hear it plus practice saying it myself rather than repeating phrases.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67198 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 10:23 am to
quote:

another option is to look for foreign-language nudie mags, which makes learning the language more appealing!


¡Solo lo leo por los artículos, lo juro!
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67198 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 10:25 am to
Yeah, I can already mostly read Spanish, but outside of a few phrases, I struggle to speak it or understand others speaking it.
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5508 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 10:37 am to
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¡Solo lo leo por los artículos, lo juro!



I spent a summer in Germany for a foreign-language class and we bought out the newsstands of the German-langauge Playboy. And we did, in fact, read the articles! Das Bild, a German tabloid was another favorite.
Posted by GeauxGoose
Nonya
Member since Dec 2006
2517 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 11:00 am to
What about Babbel? I've never used it, but it gets promoted as a fast learning app. Radio ad talks about using and saying phrases to help you out.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
1266 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:11 pm to
Certainly not free which I hate they advertise it that way.
Posted by Mufassa
Member since Aug 2012
1664 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 1:13 pm to
My recommendations are varied from person to person, but generally, I like Duolingo for early phase, especially for someone starting from absolute 0 knowledge. It gives you a good base and simple enough understanding of grammar and syntax to enable personal learning by reading in later phases. Middle phase to me is listening/reading practice along with a big, difficult, structured vocab memorization plan. I like podcasts like “coffee break Spanish/German/French/etc” to practice listening, and for vocab memorization I recommend a spaced-repitition learning app like Anki (they basically hacked the brain and present you with vocab flash cards in a specific order/frequency to promote the best attainment of words). Late phase is speaking and more reading. This can be hard depending on the language because there may not be local speakers; you will have an easier time with Spanish than others of course. Good reading materials can be things like books you already know the gist of but that still will be fun and capture your attention (translated versions of Harry Potter are a learning tool for many).

Hope this helps
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
7208 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:35 pm to
Besides Rosetta stone, Duolingo or Babbel, watch YouTube Videos.

This girl does great tutorials.

Link

At least develop some "go to phrases" to get you started. Write them down, or use some type of Notes app. I use Evernote to save my various "go to phrases" for the various countries I've been to. Nothing like being able to order rakia in Serbian to someone on a cruise that's from there at the bar. Their faces! You da man thereafter.

Nothing beats practicing. There are online tutors you can hire to talk to online. Check out Italki!

Seriously, if you want to learn you have to practice. And it's ok to drop some coin on some of these apps or sites if it's something you want to do. Free stuff only gets you so far.

This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 3:38 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67198 posts
Posted on 12/23/22 at 3:47 pm to
I’m willing to spend a little money, I just want to make sure before I do that I’m putting that money into something highly likely to work for me.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43660 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 12:11 am to
Here is who i use on italki. I dont know how she compares to anyone else but she is cool to talk with and leads a very interesting life.

LINK


Here is her youtube channel. She is very talented.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 9:01 am
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34535 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 6:22 am to
I used to travel to Mexico a good deal about 30 - 40 years ago. Almost every person who lives in Mexico can speak English. If you attempt to speak Spanish to them, they will speak English to you. I would struggle for a bit, then ask in Spanish if they spoke English.

I would always stumble through speaking Spanish and we would all get a good laugh. With the tiny bit of Spanish I knew, I got everything I wanted. The only time I had a problem was when we drove into the remote areas where some people still only spoke Mayan. Then we were screwed.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20319 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 9:45 am to
Our housekeeper who speaks very little English has a translation app on her phone. She speaks into in Spanish and we get an English translation on the screen. (and visa versa)
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6766 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 12:30 pm to

Get a Language app

Learn the basics….. i speak only the basics French German Spanish and have no problem

In the Country side it is a little harder as they do not speak English, this is where the Translator comes in handy

6 Continents
42 Countries
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Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67198 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 3:20 pm to
Yeah, my cousin’s fiancé is from a rural town in the countryside, so I’m not expecting there to be hardly anyone there that speaks English. I feel like I really need to know how to speak the language
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11877 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 12:51 pm to
I used pimsleur cds from the library to learn the pronunciation, syllabic emphasis, and tonality/rhythm of languages. And that was very helpful.

As for learning tools, I still prefer assimil. Audio cds and book to work through reading and hearing and linking the two.

You'll still think in English and have to convert to the new language. But picking up an ear for what they are saying and practicing active pronunciation are the biggest hurdles.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
32 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 2:44 pm to
Preply.com is helpful. You pick a tutor, each has a different price (affordable, $10-15/hour for the language I was learning) and FaceTime with an instructor. If you don’t like that instructor, you can always pick up with another. They all have reviews. I did really well with Duolingo, but as others have mentioned it’s difficult to speak it this way. I would def recommend Duolingo as adjunct; it’s free and helps with vocabulary.
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