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Mom Kicked Out of Rockettes at Radio City Due to Facial Recognition

Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:18 pm
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:18 pm
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When Kelly Conlon arrived at Radio City Music Hall to watch the Rockettes’ “Christmas Spectacular,” she never expected to be turned away. But that’s exactly what happened, with the mother's story adding to burgeoning concerns about the use of facial recognition technology.

The weekend after Thanksgiving, Conlon and her daughter headed into New York City on a Girl Scout trip to see the show. While everyone else in their party made it through security, Conlon was immediately stopped.

According to her recollection, it all happened very quickly upon her going through the metal detector. “I heard over an intercom or loudspeaker,” she told NBC New York. “I heard them say woman with long dark hair and a grey scarf.”

She said security guards told her she was picked up by the venue’s “recognition,” referring to facial recognition software. She was removed from the venue while her daughter and the rest of the troop and parents went inside.

It was later revealed that the reason Conlon was not allowed into the performance was because she works as an attorney for a New Jersey-based law firm that is involved in personal injury litigation against MSG Entertainment, which owns Radio City. Conlon says she is not personally involved in any cases against the company.

The company says banning Conlon is in line with its guidelines. “MSG instituted a straightforward policy that precludes attorneys pursuing active litigation against the Company from attending events at our venues until that litigation has been resolved,” an MSG Entertainment spokesperson said in a statement. “While we understand this policy is disappointing to some, we cannot ignore the fact that litigation creates an inherently adverse environment. All impacted attorneys were notified of the policy, including Davis, Saperstein and Salomon, which was notified twice.”

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Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11983 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:27 pm to
What a time to be alive and frick James Dolan
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:29 pm to
Victim mentality is ruining this country
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104294 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:32 pm to
Like MSGs victim mentality.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:40 pm to
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Mom Kicked Out of Rockettes at Radio City Due to Facial Recognition

Pics of the mom? You know, for recognition purposes
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37542 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 11:48 pm to
I saw where they issued those notices to opposing counsel but didn’t know they enforced them to that extent. Damn.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
6040 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:03 am to
I mean… if I was having a birthday party for my son and his buddy little Jimmy’s dad was suing me for some reason little Jimmy wouldn’t be invited and neither would his PI attorney dad so I don’t see a problem.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Member since Oct 2011
40572 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:07 am to
Hard to feel bad for a lawyer.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104294 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:13 am to
She isn't t involved in the case and isn't licensed to practice law in the state of New York. She just happened to work for a firm that represents someone in litigation vs MSG. The firm is involved in a lawsuit against an entity in another state that MSG didn't even own at the time of the alleged incident-they acquired it later. Seems pretty petty and vindictive, considering how far down the roster they had to go for this lady to even be on their radar.
Posted by Richard Grayson
Bestbank
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:58 am to
Radio City Music hall has access to facial recognition technology that can instantly identify someone and pull up their entire life story including employment and then cross reference that against a set of rules and then alert someone to a match on one of those rules?

And we’re all just going to gloss over that like it’s no big deal?

Radio City Music Hall just used crazy advanced scifi dystopian technology in real time and we’re squabbling over stupid lawyer jokes?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48996 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:25 am to
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Radio City Music hall has access to facial recognition technology that can instantly identify someone and pull up their entire life story including employment and then cross reference that against a set of rules and then alert someone to a match on one of those rules?

And we’re all just going to gloss over that like it’s no big deal?

Radio City Music Hall just used crazy advanced scifi dystopian technology in real time and we’re squabbling over stupid lawyer jokes?



I guess it's all about the perspective of what the technology will be used for.
People are banned from establishments all the time for countless reasons.

I would support that technology at places like Walmart, Home Depot, etc where thieves are costing retailers millions of dollars every month. And that shrinkage is ultimately passed on to paying customers.

I'd also support these retailers' ability to share this data so thieves will be identified and stopped when walking in a Target if they've been caught on camera stealing from a Walmart.

That would be a huge win-win for capitalism and consumers. But is it an invasion of privacy? Who would be the Gatekeeper of that incredibly sensitive and valuable data? I don't know the answer to that.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 1:26 am
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14322 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 1:57 am to
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But is it an invasion of privacy?


Yep, specifically mine and my family’s.

The scenarios you put forth are good ones. But I don’t think it’s worth it to me to have the face of me and my family scanned and run through a database without my permission just to go fricking shop. That’s just me.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48996 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:34 am to
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The scenarios you put forth are good ones. But I don’t think it’s worth it to me to have the face of me and my family scanned and run through a database without my permission just to go fricking shop. That’s just me.


I agree with that.

They'd aka big brother/big tech would have to somehow prove to the public that facial data would be scanned and compared to flagged profiles, but not not stored. This is how LA licenses are supposed work at places that scan your ID. Your ID is scanned to return a value of 'valid' or 'not valid'. Do you trust that they are not storing that scan data?


No clue how they'd achieve that.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 2:39 am
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:38 am to

The Gatekeeper is the NSA as well as dozens of govt and connected left wing private businesses.

Do you think it coincidental that mask mandates kept BLM operatives from being detected by this technology
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48996 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 2:41 am to
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Do you think it coincidental that mask mandates kept BLM operatives from being detected by this technology

No. I think the technology is absolutely abused and misused by govt agencies.
Just wondering how it'll be used by private sector and how the government will 'help out'
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 2:42 am
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17016 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:11 am to
I will allow it.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24952 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:28 am to
we’ve wrecked the best society in human history with record speed
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
14500 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:32 am to
I ate a Girl Scout cookie once. Could’ve been me.
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:47 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41329 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 3:58 am to
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Seems pretty petty and vindictive,


It is James Dolan
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