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Ukraine Military Aid
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:19 am
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:19 am
Can anyone link to a story which examines the sums of actual military aid which we have sent to Ukraine? Because it does not appear that most of the money we see discussed is either military OR sent to Ukraine.
As just one example, the $40 billion last spring included $16 billion in humanitarian aid. It included about $4 billion in spending on OUR military and another $2 billion to the militaries of NATO allies. Of the remainder, much was not slated to be SPENT for months or even years.
“We should not be spending ANY of that!”
OK, that is the response I expect from most. Good for you, if voicing that sentiment makes you feel better. Knock yourself out. But that is not the question I am asking.
As just one example, the $40 billion last spring included $16 billion in humanitarian aid. It included about $4 billion in spending on OUR military and another $2 billion to the militaries of NATO allies. Of the remainder, much was not slated to be SPENT for months or even years.
“We should not be spending ANY of that!”
OK, that is the response I expect from most. Good for you, if voicing that sentiment makes you feel better. Knock yourself out. But that is not the question I am asking.
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:20 am to AggieHank86
FTX records are sealed for bankruptcy proceedings.... LOL
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:34 am to AggieHank86
We’re helping Ukraine set the Red Army back for a while. Best bang for the buck assistance in my lifetime. Open the tap and finish the job.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:36 am to Decatur
quote:
Open the tap and finish the job.
I expect to see you first in line at the recruiting station tomorrow morning.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:37 am to Decatur
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:49 am to AggieHank86
quote:
$40 billion
Appropriated by Congress and doled out in what are called "tranches".
Every time a tranche is announced the emotional and uneducated here think (wrongly) its is in addition to the 40 bil appropriated. Its not.
And that makes sense right we sent an initial package of military aid and then tailored the trances to what the Ukrainians need.
What is truly sad in some of the outrage threads about "more money for Ukraine" the linked story will actually say "this 750 million package of military aid is part of the 40 billion appropriation".
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:51 am to Swamp Angel
quote:This is such a vapid comment. We have funded proxy wars forever.
I expect to see you first in line at the recruiting station tomorrow morning.
Whether Ukraine is a wise place to do so and whether we are spending too much? Both valid questions.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:54 am to AggieHank86
Why even over-analyze it?
Honestly. Does anyone with a brain believe that this money is being spent wisely? Does anyone actually believe its not being used to pay off donors in the MIC and cronies overseas? The FTX story is just the tip of the iceberg.
Honestly. Does anyone with a brain believe that this money is being spent wisely? Does anyone actually believe its not being used to pay off donors in the MIC and cronies overseas? The FTX story is just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:55 am to AggieHank86
quote:
But that is not the question I am asking.
so what are you asking?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:55 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:
Does anyone with a brain believe that this money is being spent wisely?
The Russians would say yes without a doubt.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:57 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:Whether we have spent $20 billion or $120 billion seems a relevant question, to me.
Why even over-analyze it?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:58 am to ApexTiger
quote:To repeat:
so what are you asking?
quote:
Can anyone link to a story which examines the sums of actual military aid which we have sent to Ukraine?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:02 am to AggieHank86
fair enough.
I guess my point is that its 100% wasteful and it shouldnt even be 1 dollar. These "wars" have become nothing more than a global money laundering operation.
I guess my point is that its 100% wasteful and it shouldnt even be 1 dollar. These "wars" have become nothing more than a global money laundering operation.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:03 am to AggieHank86
quote:
This is such a vapid comment. We have funded proxy wars forever.
Ukraine is not our war. US Sovereignty is not threatened. The existence of proxy wars in the past does not justify current or future proxy wars. Decatur, like many others, is perfectly willing to put tax money where his mouth is, but will not place his arse in line to do anything on a personal level. This is much like the wealthy northerners during the US draft during the American Civil War who would purchase their way out of serving in any physical capacity.
"Vapid" is suggesting that funding proxy wars in the past establishes legitimacy to funding proxy wars in the future. For a man who claims to use logic, you tend to make frequent use of non-sequiturs.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:07 am to AggieHank86
What Lakeboy said has been correct up until recently, but Congress has now proposed legislation for additional funding for 2023.
This is a decent story from Newsweek focused on US spending.
LINK
This is a decent story from Newsweek focused on US spending.
LINK
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:07 am to Swamp Angel
quote:
but will not place his arse in line to do anything on a personal level.
Like bone spurs and anal warts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:11 am to AggieHank86
Why is it that all Ukrainian money seems to come back into our Politician’s hands. This is a huge scandal…….
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:17 am to Swamp Angel
It’s a vital US national national interest to ensure that our allies survive. Ukraine easily checks the box.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:21 am to Decatur
Great allies.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:23 am to Bunk Moreland
How does someone like you become shameless tankie?
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