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Standardized Tests (ACT,SAT) were supposed to be equalizers
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:09 am
The idea was that a kid from a small town in Louisiana with good grades at a public school would be able to demonstrate that he or she was as smart as a kid from the East Coast who went to a prep school.
That standardized tests was to even the playing field so even kids that went to a poorer public school could demonstrate reading, writing and math skills and knowledge of science and social sciences.
Elite schools wanted to show that they were not just schools for rich kids with connections and truly elite universities for all.
Even schools like LSU up to the 1990s saw standardized tests as a way to improve diversity in that black kids who were smart would score well on the exams as well as kids from private schools.
That standardized tests was to even the playing field so even kids that went to a poorer public school could demonstrate reading, writing and math skills and knowledge of science and social sciences.
Elite schools wanted to show that they were not just schools for rich kids with connections and truly elite universities for all.
Even schools like LSU up to the 1990s saw standardized tests as a way to improve diversity in that black kids who were smart would score well on the exams as well as kids from private schools.
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:11 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Ralph_Wiggum
Commie is sad that daddy govt failed?
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:15 am to Ralph_Wiggum
In what way are they not equalizers?
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:16 am to Ralph_Wiggum
This kind of crap is moving up to all levels. The Step 1 medical licensing exam recently went pass/fail. All that's going to do is harm the great students from less prestigious schools. It's no surprise that for Step 1, it was Harvard med students pushing for pass/fail; they've already got it made simply on reputation.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:18 am to Ralph_Wiggum
The statistics and results from standardized tests showed something that the liberal elites didn’t like
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:55 am to Ralph_Wiggum
The interests of Equity now render the old ways obsolete. The old ways were based on merit alone and not skin color. The USA has abandoned the old ways are enter the Era of Equity, in which skin color and sexuality are more important than individual merit.
The USA now stands for Collective Guilt and discrimination based on skin color and sexuality. How "American" is that?
The USA now stands for Collective Guilt and discrimination based on skin color and sexuality. How "American" is that?
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:58 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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The idea was that a kid from a small town in Louisiana with good grades at a public school would be able to demonstrate that he or she was as smart as a kid from the East Coast who went to a prep school.
That was likely true 50 years ago. It could probably still work if they implemented some impromptu element that can’t be gamed.
Everybody seems to love an anecdote about having a hangover and nearly achieving a perfect score…yet nobody ever mentions the 36 week prep course their parents forced them to take beforehand.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:33 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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The idea was that a kid from a small town in Louisiana with good grades at a public school would be able to demonstrate that he or she was as smart as a kid from the East Coast who went to a prep school.
is not the same thing as...
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saw standardized tests as a way to improve diversity in that black kids who were smart would score well on the exams as well as kids from private schools.
Once they started using standardized testing as a means of increasing racial demographics (instead of simply best scores with no other qualifiers), that's when the problems started and why now the push is equity over equality (ie: equality of outcome over equality of opportunity).
This is what happens when government gets involved.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:38 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
I posted this video the other day in reference to something else, but this is a George Carlin video. Forward to 6:35 and he starts talking about education in this country.
Personally, I actually think he is spot on here.
George Carlin
Personally, I actually think he is spot on here.
George Carlin
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:05 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Years ago, I saw an interview where the person was claiming standardized tests had a cultural bias. As an example, she showed a question that asked “What is the weather like?” and there was a drawing of an older woman holding an umbrella. The correct answer was “rainy” although “sunny” was often chosen by some cultures.
I understood the point but it also seemed to point out that there were observable behavioral differences between different cultures.
I understood the point but it also seemed to point out that there were observable behavioral differences between different cultures.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:14 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
They are doing minorities no favors. I was sent to a new cardiologist last year, she was a young black woman, who said I needed a cath procedure. Because of affirmative action I have to think she is not as qualified as a white or Asian doctor. She maybe the greatest cardiologist in the world, but this is my life and I don't want to take that chance for the sake of diversity.
Call me a racist, but I'm still alive.
Call me a racist, but I'm still alive.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 4:00 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Yes but the ways to game the test ended that shite
Posted on 11/19/22 at 4:05 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
We are moving away from enrollment based on academic standards and achievement. And it is a disaster.
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