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It appears the committee doesn’t want to diminish a conference championship

Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted by da prophet
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:31 pm
If LSU wins out and the committee puts Tennessee and Georgia in the playoffs, the optics would be terrible. Two conference teams in and the conference champion left out after defeating the number 1 team in the championship game. I could definitely see Georgia getting in, but 2 SEC teams in following a victory over the consensus number 1 team in the championship game.
Posted by bnb9433
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:48 pm to
if LSU beats Georgia, they're in
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:49 pm to
The vol melt would be delicious
Posted by Barry McCockinner
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:49 pm to
If LSU beats UGA, then they are in.
Posted by CommieTiger
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:50 pm to
516,546 posts so far about this same subject...
Posted by Shaq4prez
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:55 pm to
and you decided to post..................
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:55 pm to
The committee didn't seem to care when the left out 10-2 Big Ten champion Penn St in favor of 11-1 Ohio St...who Penn St beat in the regular season.

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I could definitely see Georgia getting in,


Why? They would have just as many losses as Tennessee. Plus a significantly worse strength of schedule. Now, I'm sure the logical argument would be Georgia beat Tennessee. But wouldn't that same logic apply in favor of Tennessee over LSU?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:56 pm to
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If LSU wins out and the committee puts Tennessee and Georgia in the playoffs, the optics would be terrible. Two conference teams in and the conference champion left out after defeating the number 1 team in the championship game. I could definitely see Georgia getting in, but 2 SEC teams in following a victory over the consensus number 1 team in the championship game.


Beat Georgia convincingly, and Tennessee and LSU go. Beat Georgia in a close one and Georgia and LSU go. Lose to georgia and the Vols and Bulldogs go.

All of this depends on some other mayhem. It's possible that TCU and USC go undefeated the rest of the way. If so, maybe only one SEC team goes. Unlikely, though.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:57 pm to
No way in the world do they keep the sec champion out if LSU wins.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:51 pm to
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Now, I'm sure the logical argument would be Georgia beat Tennessee. But wouldn't that same logic apply in favor of Tennessee over LSU?


But LSU has the SEC championship which is a data point to the committee.

Basically the committee would be choosing the head to head over the conference championship.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:57 pm to
Conference championship win means way more than a regular season win
Posted by wfallstiger
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:30 pm to
If a conference title eludes a team - no entrance to the CFP...simply my take
Posted by dat yat
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:36 pm to
Read the CFP Selection Protocol: CFP

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For purposes of any four-team playoff, the process will inevitably need to select the four best teams from among several with legitimate claims to participate.


quote:

Establish a committee that will be instructed to place an emphasis on winning conference championships, strength of schedule and head-to-head competition when comparing teams with similar records and pedigree (treat final determination like a tie-breaker; apply specific guidelines).


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When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered:
Championships won
Strength of schedule
Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)


So the question is, can a 2 loss team be considered equivalent to a group of one loss teams to the extent that the tiebreakers (championships, head to head, strength of schedule) need to be applied?


That said, the most important element that almost guarantees the selection of a Brian Kelly team is this:
quote:

... the selection committee must be aligned ...



Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

It appears the committee doesn’t want to diminish a conference championship
I hope we find a way to re-work these conference championships. They're random now.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:51 pm to
Committee has consistently favored Conference Champions.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4514 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:13 pm to
If LSU wins out, they’re in. The committee won’t have two non-champions from the same conference, let alone the same division of the conference.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:17 pm to
If LSU beat Georgia and was left out, you would absolutely start seeing teams like Alabama and Georgia purposely losing one game to a quality opponent by a small margin just to NOT have to play in the conference championship game.

That or they would just “opt out” of the conference championship game if they were an undefeated top 4 team and honestly I wouldn’t blame them. A conference championship means nothing compared to a national championship
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Conference championship win means way more than a regular season win


It will depend on how the committee feels about it. I’m sure there are some on there that feel both ways. It’s all about which side can be more persuasive.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:26 pm to
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If LSU wins out, they’re in. The committee won’t have two non-champions from the same conference, let alone the same division of the conference.

I was overlooking the fact that both are from the same division.
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