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re: UVA shooting suspect Christopher Darnell Jones' parents speak out ahead of arraignment

Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:30 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:30 am to
Lots of young people snapping.

Wonder who could have predicted this?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65405 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:31 am to
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But those also read as he didn’t really know his kid very well.

maybe, maybe not. There are plenty of people who hide their mental health struggles from their friends and family. His father was able to tell something wasn't right with his son last time he saw him, but that doesn't mean he's gonna know exactly what's going on, especially for a college kid who doesn't see his parents every day anymore.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13998 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:50 am to
When your kids are grown you don't know what they're really getting into. They might not communicate regularly or see each other very often. You hope and pray for the best, but people get caught up in the crazy quickly if they hang around it.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21412 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:14 am to
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Because he was a walk-on that only played spring and summer ball one year and left the team before the fall. He was just a regular student


How did he get into UVA?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65405 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:26 am to
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How did he get into UVA?

He applied and got accepted. Why is this such a mystery to you?
Posted by ReasonableGuy
Member since Nov 2022
232 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:49 am to
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I’ve said it before and ill say it again, Mental Illness is a real and needs to be dealt with in this country


There are at a minimum "81 Million" reasons
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35662 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:53 am to
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Why was he still in U VA if he was off the team for a couple of years?


So, if he leaves the team he can't remain as a student?
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3388 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 11:58 am to
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I mean if he doesn't have a track record of mental illness or impulse issues


He likely wouldn't have a history of mental health issues if schizophrenia. Onset of symptoms do not generally occur until a person is in their twenties.


Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21412 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:03 pm to
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How did he get into UVA? He applied and got accepted. Why is this such a mystery to you?


Someone in this thread said he went to one of the worst high schools in America. My high school was a top 50 high school nationally and was also in VA and only a small portion of applicants got in.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
39027 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:25 pm to
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He a good boy!


Not what they were saying.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9692 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Someone in this thread said he went to one of the worst high schools in America. My high school was a top 50 high school nationally and was also in VA and only a small portion of applicants got in.

You don’t think there are smart kids that test well at shitty high schools?

There are certainly dumb kids at good high schools.

There might be more smart kids at good high schools and more dumb kids at shitty schools, but the (apparent) line of thought that going to a bad school means he shouldn’t have been able to get into UVA is.. odd.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65405 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:49 pm to
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Someone in this thread said he went to one of the worst high schools in America. My high school was a top 50 high school nationally and was also in VA and only a small portion of applicants got in.


He's a minority student who was a national merit scholar. To be a national merit scholar, he would have needed to test well on the PSAT. If he tested well on the PSAT, odds are he did well on the SAT/ACT and probably made good grades too. He also very well have been given an extra boost as a preferred walk-on to gain admittance (that happens plenty). Regardless, just because he went to a bad high school doesn't mean those bad high schools never send kids to good schools, especially in-state state universities. Yes, UVA is difficult to get into, but that doesn't mean they have no students from inner-city schools.

I'm sorry, it's just really odd that you are having trouble wrapping your head around how a walk-on football player was still a student if he quit the team. He was never on scholarship. He applied and was admitted to the school as a student. You don't get kicked out of school, even as a scholarship athlete, if you quit playing sports. If he was making grades and had a plan in place to take care of tuition, there's no reason him playing football would have interfered with his ability to remain a student. The school isn't gonna say, "well, you aren't on academic probation, but you quit football and went to a bad high school, so you can't go to school here anymore."

Do you realize how many scholarship athletes who are "processed" still stay in school and just don't play sport for the school anymore? And it happens even more with walk-on players like this guy. Hell, I'll even go the extreme route with Tyrann Mathieu. When he was first kicked off the football team before the 2012 season, he was still a student at LSU. It wasn't until his subsequent arrest that he was dismissed from the school too. The school has no basis to dismiss students in good academic standing because they lose a scholarship or quit playing a sport. That wouldn't even be legal.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11868 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Dude snapped and maybe flew under the radar and no one raised the red flag.



Honestly, in this day and age where it seems everyone hates everybody... how can you tell if someone is "flying under the radar" or if they are merely just another a-hole?
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:58 pm to
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Jones Sr., however, did say he noticed his son "was really paranoid" when they last spoke.


And versus saying let's get you some help he's like "aight I'll talk to you later."

edit: and I'm picking on him but a ton of people have no balls to say what needs to be said when someone is being or leading to destructive behavior
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:06 pm to
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He was a member of the national honor society apparently.


How hard is that at a crap high school?


Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35491 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:25 pm to
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Mental Illness is a real and needs to be dealt with in this country


/thread.

I feel for his parents.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35491 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:26 pm to
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Sounds like it could have been a schizophrenic episode. It’s not uncommon for someone his age to have their first psychotic episode and it can be very severe.

And schizophrenia usually manifests in your early 20's.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21412 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:08 pm to
This was quite the tirade because I was curious how a student who ended up murdering 3 people got into an elite college. And then stayed there after legal violations as well as breaking school bylaws that required internal intervention. Yes sorry that perplexed me.
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
2601 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:31 am to
Your whole post is pretty spot on.

quote:

I'm sorry, it's just really odd that you are having trouble wrapping your head around how a walk-on football player was still a student if he quit the team.


This part made me laugh though. We are on tigerdroppings, baw.
Posted by Kayakndan74
NE AL
Member since Nov 2021
378 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:28 am to
Could be the attorney told his father to start laying groundwork to save the son's life? He'll get the needle in Virginia unless some sort of diminished capacity is introduced at trial. If there are no texts, all we have is the fathers interpretation of an oral conversation.
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