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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:27 pm to
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My money’s on Taco Bell.


New York Johnnys baw
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:31 pm to
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Wrong.

They can compel the court to enforce her compliance, and since she was used in the probable cause affidavit you can bet your arse the court will enforce it.


Can’t speak to legal process, but I know human nature.

If the defense goes after Dylan aggressively, I can’t imagine it will go over well with the jury.
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:35 pm to
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That would be a reason for leaving the sheath by their bodies.
If he did it intentionally, i would assume it would be in the hope that he'd be caught, unless he used something to contaminate it. If I'm committing a quad homicide, the only things I want to leave at the scene are corpses, not anything that could be tied back to me.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:37 pm to
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That would be a reason for leaving the sheath by their bodies.



Dude, no.

You honestly think he intentionally left behind the single biggest piece of evidence against him? This dude is a criminology major and PHd student that's taken a deep fascination in the 'how' and 'why' criminals escape detection or get caught. No way he's intentionally leaving something like that behind, even if it says "USMC" on it. That's just asinine

You're reaching Baldona levels with this take. I have no idea why people feel the need to make their own random dumb ideas fit the circumstances just to feel like they've come up with some "outside of the box" new detail that cracks the case.

And with your weird sentence structure and grammar, I still have no idea what point you're trying to make about previous "bad interactions" with couples and BK's thinking
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 6:44 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6259 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:38 pm to
Oh for fricks sake. Hopefully chicken tells you to kick rocks too.

No matter how much planning, no matter how smart you are, no matter how much you practiced you will never be ready for the real thing. Remember how you beat your meat in preparation for that first piece of arse. You fantasized about, dreamed how it go. Then finally when you were 44 someone gave you some. You nutted in 3 seconds, had convulsions and forgot where you were. Yeah, same thing happened to this guy.
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3190 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:38 pm to
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DA is still searching for a motive


My theory, he doesn’t have one directly tied to these specific victims. I think they were chosen at random for a specific reason we don’t know yet. I think he did search them out, but I do not think he had any personal relationship to any of them and I don’t think one was a target and the others just happened to be there.

This case has a lot of Ted Bundy type vibes for me. And again, its just my theory, but I think this guy had some tendencies and after all his work in criminology, etc decided to act on them.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14801 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:45 pm to
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My theory, he doesn’t have one directly tied to these specific victims.


Well after his arrest one of the girls fathers said they were finding connections he had to them. Nothing official yet, but I’d say it’s very likely there was something there.
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3190 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:45 pm to
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If the defense goes after Dylan aggressively, I can’t imagine it will go over well with the jury


Defense doesn’t have to be aggressive with her to discredit her. A good attorney will have the skill to question her in a way that she discredits herself.

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35334 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:51 pm to
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During his criminology classes, do you think he learned how hard it was to identify attackers dressed this way?


Like how he learned about cell phone pings?
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3190 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:51 pm to
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Well after his arrest one of the girls fathers said they were finding connections he had to them.


The only one that has spoke out regarding possible connections is Steve Goncalves, and he did not say they had found connections between them….he said they were LOOKING and he would be surprised if it was someone that knew her.

LINK
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14801 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:56 pm to
“Steve Goncalves, father of Kaylee, 21, said his family has found connections between the University of Idaho student and suspect Bryan Kohberger”

From online article. LINK
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 6:57 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:00 pm to
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DA is still searching for a motive


I suggested early on that he was seduced by the very subject he studied. I don’t think he had a specific reason to kill
These people. He just got consumed by murder and these poor souls were his victims.

Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4015 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:00 pm to
That's a Daily Mail article that also states he taunted guards and said he'd cut them. I wouldn't take that article very seriously.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14801 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Saintsisit


I think that specific aspect was accurately reported but found the female quoted was incorrect about the person making the statements while incarcerated. The fathers quote is still in play.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19176 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:04 pm to
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They can compel the court to enforce her compliance, and since she was used in the probable cause affidavit you can bet your arse the court will enforce it.


Please stop with this. Some of you guys are so far off in the weeds regarding this girl that it’s detailing the thread. The police did not compel or ask either witness to submit to a toxicology test. Why would they? There’s no reason for it. This idea that the defense is going to compel her to submit to one months later is equally absurd. A toxicology test done today would have absolutely zero bearing on her state of mind the night of the murders. There is no need to continue on page after page about something that has no bearing in reality on the case
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:06 pm to
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If he did it intentionally, i would assume it would be in the hope that he'd be caught


I'm not convinced he didnt. Sounds like he left a lot of clues.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:07 pm to
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Defense doesn’t have to be aggressive with her to discredit her. A good attorney will have the skill to question her in a way that she discredits herself.




And he has a public defender. A lot of people in this thread are acting like he's got OJ's "dream team" and the Rodney King beating on his side.

Sure, some sleazeball attorney may end up representing him for the publicity/attention. But, for now, he has a public defender and a shitload of evidence(with more almost definitely to come) going against him.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19176 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:16 pm to
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I suggested early on that he was seduced by the very subject he studied. I don’t think he had a specific reason to kill These people. He just got consumed by murder and these poor souls were his victims.


Go back to what I posted earlier. As a student researcher at DeSales university, he conducted research where he interviewed criminals about their behavior before and after their crimes. After the murders he began posting questions under the name Pappa Rodgers in a FB forum about the murders. Someone posted the DeSales questions side by side with his group questions in the forum. They are nearly identical with some of them being almost word for word.

Why would a guy seemingly pull question after question from his previous research and begin asking them in a public forum? My worthless opinion is because the sick frick was still conducting research. He was simply conducting it from the criminals point of view. It’s bizarrely twisted but it’s all there in black and white. He purposely became his own research because what better way to understand criminal behavior than to become one.
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3190 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:26 pm to
You realize the Newsweek article is more current and also has actual quotes from Goncalves?

But ok, we’ll trust your DailyMail article with zero quotes and vague statements, etc because they are a bastion of journalism

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39595 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:26 pm to
I was originally thinking he met them at the restaurant they worked at, or the beer place next door. I don't now, because I don't think he would drive 10 miles, drink, and take a chance on a DUI, while trying to garner employment with the local LEO's.

I also don't think the restaurant would buy new cookware and utensils for him, so the spirit or essence of meat, or whatever, would not offend him.

I just think he stayed closer to Pullman for food and drink, to creep out people over there. I think he met them on an infrequent trip over, or found them online, and stalked them, growing a relationship that existed in his mind. When he could learn no more aboot them online, he began stalking them IRL.
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