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Gotta hand it to the CFP committee…

Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:54 am
Posted by UGATiger26
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:54 am
You can argue that they did it for TV ratings, but they sure did look smart slotting LSU at 10 when the AP and Coaches had them at 15 and 17 last week.

LSU may be the most interesting test case to date of how the CFP decision-making works. In this case, they clearly did better than the AP/Coaches voters playing by the “traditional rules” of the Top 25.

Guessing the committee will slot them at 6 now. Even with 2 losses, there is no doubt that LSU deserves a playoff spot if they win out.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:00 am to
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Gotta hand it to the CFP committee…
I get what you're saying, but I have to disagree to an extent.

LSU #10 was to prop up Bama. LSU didn't let that happen.

AP/Coaches is always nonsense.

UGA is a place where they can lose SECCG and playoff. LSU needs to win out, IMO. Bama is out. I think UT is still in play.

TAMU at 3-6 is out.
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:06 am to
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Guessing the committee will slot them at 6 now. Even with 2 losses, there is no doubt that LSU deserves a playoff spot if they win out.

Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:08 am to
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LSU #10 was to prop up Bama. 
Goodness. Classic rant right here.

If anything, it was to prop the game up, not bama. But I wouldn't expect 90% of the rant to realize that.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:20 am to
I’ve been trying to explain this to people in my CFB watching circle. The AP and Coaches Poll tend to lean more towards “more deserving,” which I actually agree with—every game should count—the CFB Committee’s goal is to get the “best 4” teams. I don’t like that, because I think that’s too subjective, nobody “knows” who’s “best,” objective as they think they might be.


However, if they are trying to rank “the best,” there was an easy argument—even before this game—that LSU was currently playing like a top 10 team in CFB. Even if their resume didn’t reflect it. Obviously, it does now. Will be really interesting to see where LSU, Bama, and Tennessee are ranked Tuesday. Georgia should be a unanimous # 1, obviously. And does a 2-loss LSU get ranked over a 1-loss Clemson that has no really impressive wins and got spanked by Notre Dame? Would have been nice if TCU had lost if we’re letting ourselves dream of making the CFP. An 11-2 SEC Champ LSU probably gets in over a 12-1 Big 12 Champ TCU, but not a 13-0 Big 12 Champ TCU.

I do think Tennessee, Clemson, and Bama were all basically eliminated tonight, though, so that’s good. Still would need some dominos to fall before they put a 2-loss team in, but that’s a month of games that will take care of themselves away.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:30 am to
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Goodness. Classic rant right here.

If anything, it was to prop the game up, not bama. But I wouldn't expect 90% of the rant to realize that.
Okay.

Thanks for raining on my parade.

I literally DGAF.

Cheers and Happy Sunday!
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:39 am to
LSU is in if they win out, I 100% believe that

But I watched UGA stomp a mudhole in UT before our game and I gotta say yall are a scary team. Not gonna be easy to beat those guys for sure. But you don't deserve to be in the playoffs if you can't win those kinda games anyway. Can't wait to see yall
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:47 am to
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Thanks for raining on my parade.

I don't think you used that correctly. What parade was I raining on? You just made a dumb comment that I responded to and corrected.

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I literally DGAF.
Then why'd you make that post? And a follow up to my response, if you dgaf?

Seems you got offended by my post. Sorry, didn't mean to get your panties in a wad. We should all be happy and get along, we beat Bama and have the inside track to the SECCG.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 4:50 am
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:49 am to
LSU would demolish FSU if they played next week.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:55 am to
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You can argue that they did it for TV ratings


Only if you’re a moron.

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Guessing the committee will slot them at 6 now.


8 most likely. Why would we be ahead of Tennessee who did beat us badly and has only 1 loss? Everyone else in the top 10 won except Clemson and Bama of course

Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:55 am to
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LSU would demolish FSU if they played next week.


Without question. But as much of a homer as I am, CFB is the greatest sport in the history of Earth, and a big part of that is because every game matters. They beat us. Doesn’t matter when it was, how much we’ve improved, that they played a Week 0 game the week before, whatever. They beat us and it counted. It may not have counted so much that we can’t overcome it to become the 1st 2-loss team to ever make the CFB playoff, but we will have to overcome it. Because it happened.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 4:55 am to
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We should all be happy and get along
I'm taking this route.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:01 am to
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The AP and Coaches Poll tend to lean more towards “more deserving,”


I couldn’t disagree with this more. The traditional polls rank pretty much by straight best record and are slaves to their earlier polls.

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CFB Committee’s goal is to get the “best 4” teams.


Yes but in the week to week poll they look only at what’s happened so far. I don’t think there’s any question Tennessee was most deserving of #1 this week even though UGA looked like the best team. Who was 1 in which poll?

ETA I do agree with you that most deserving should be the standard vs “ “best teams”
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 5:06 am
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:04 am to
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LSU would demolish FSU if they played next week.
I'd like to think so as well. FSU lost 3 in a row against Wake Forest, NC State and Clemson, but credit to then, they've completely dominated their last 2 games against GT and Miami. Not like those teams are good and FSU beat the brakes off them, probably like they should have. But at the time of both of those games, I don't think anyone expected FSU to dominate like they did. Both of those teams are now 4-5, FSU is now 6-3.

I guess that's the issue with having a team like that as your first game, especially with a new coaching staff, new starting QB and so many new players. It takes a little bit for everything to come together. I'm not sure if LSU would demolish FSU if they played next week, but I do think we'd win by a TD or 2 or maybe even a TD and a FG. It also wouldn't surprise me though if we did demolish them.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing them play again. I'm not saying I want to see them play in a bowl game or anything, bc that means that LSU would probably lose at least one, maybe two more games. I'd just like to see them face off at this point in the season to see where both teams are at now.

Also, I would have loved to see what would have happened if our kicker would have made that XP. We would have had all the momentum going our way and I think we would have won that game if we made that XP.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:05 am to
I'll drink to that!
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:06 am to
The moved LSU up to 10 to boost Bama's resume to find a reason move Bama into the top 4 over some team that might be undefeated such as TCU...it bit them in the arse...
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:16 am to
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I couldn’t disagree with this more. The traditional polls rank pretty much by straight best record and are slaves to their earlier polls.


We don’t disagree. I didn’t mean their stated goal was to get the “most deserving” teams, I think it just happens to work out like that because they’re lazy and the 1st metric they’ve used in the 35+ years I’ve been keeping up with the AP and Coaches’ poll is number of losses.

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ETA I do agree with you that most deserving should be the standard vs “ “best teams”


Do you not remember this? You and I have been THE most “aligned” MSB posters on this specific issue for 15 years. We’re on the same page.

And, loathe as I am as a Braves fan to say it, congrats to the ‘Stros for winning the Series tonight. How’d you balance watching the games?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60899 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:19 am to
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The moved LSU up to 10 to boost Bama's resume to find a reason move Bama into the top 4 over some team that might be undefeated such as TCU


you tards need to think thru your conspiracies. The only way Bama was going to the playoff was if they won out. At 12-1 SEC Champ what LSU was ranked a month earlier would have no significance
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:21 am to
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you tards need to think thru your conspiracies. The only way Bama was going to the playoff was if they won out.
Do you even Bama bro?


This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 5:24 am
Posted by PurpleExile
Member since Dec 2020
598 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:24 am to
The CFP committee doesn't shill for the TV networks.
What network was Condoleeza Rice working for?

It's a committee, not a think tank of trained experts. For them, ranking is just one big eyeball test. The one abiding rule of thumb appears to be they will send the four best teams to the CFP playoffs.

The traditional polls have been broken for years. Years.
They're like a tennis club ladder, where one guy beats another guy and gets to move up one, maybe two places.
So if a team upsets a higher ranked team, it still finds itself ranked below the team it beat.
Stupid is as stupid does.

The computers were no better. We don't want to be up past midnight on a Saturday waiting to see how many points some mountain school beat Hawaii by.

I think the CFP people moved us into 10th because they correctly assessed that we deserved that spot, despite the two defeats.

Tennessee, despite getting its doors blown off, is actually not in bad shape. It just needs to stay ahead of the loser of the Ohio State-Michigan game.
I can't imagine TCU remaining undefeated, not with tough road games ahead in Austin and Waco. They're okay, but that 2014 TCU team that routed Ole Miss in the Peach Bowl was much better. I'm guessing TCU will finish 11-2 and go to the Cotton Bowl.

Hopefully, we can finish 10-2 and then play Georgia somewhat close in the SECCG. That will get us a bid to a New Year's Six bowl, an amazing accomplishment for Brian Kelly's first team.

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