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new study:training frequency
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:26 am
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:26 am
A new study compared training a muscle 3x per week vs 1x per week when total volume was relatively equalized and when not equalized
from Menno Henselmans:
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essentially what they found was if you equalize total tonnage, the group training 3x per week is having to hold back on intensity because they are more rested with the volume being spread across 3 days vs 1 day.
if you allow the 3x group to go up in volume as they feel comfortable with based on recovery.....you end up with more total volume/total tonnage which, based on the statistical analysis, resulted in approx twice as much muscle growth.
from Menno Henselmans:
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Training a muscle 3x per week doubles muscle growth compared to training it 1x per week, new study on trained lifters finds
I had been waiting so long for this study on training frequency.
The researchers compared the effect of training a muscle 1x vs. 3x per week for strength and muscle growth using a within-subject design. This is much more robust than the typical between-individuals design, as you control for each person's individual genetics, diet and lifestyle.
The trainees performed one-legged leg presses. One leg did 9 sets once a week. The other leg did 3 sets 3x per week.
A second group did the same program but equalized total training volume work (sets x reps x weight) between frequencies.
Since you can normally perform considerably more work with higher training frequencies due to being less fatigued, the 3x per week group had to hold back to perform only the same volume as the 1x per week group.
When equating total training tonnage between groups, there were no meaningful differences between the training frequencies, as expected based on prior research. In contrast, the leg trained 3x per week without holding back achieved 2-2.7x more muscle growth than the legs being trained 1x per week group (4.1% vs. 1.5% & 2.1% increases in quad CSA). In other words, it seems the higher training frequency more than doubled their size gains.
Leg press 1RM strength increased 25% in the 3x leg compared to 16% & 19% in the legs being trained once per week.
However, none of these differences were statistically significant. With only 12 lifters per group, trained individuals and a 9-week study, statistical power was most likely too low to detect any realistic effects as statistically significant. So the authors performed an effect size analysis. This indicated the effect of training frequency was insignificant when equating total work but of medium strength when not equating total work. The between-group effect sizes for both strength and size did not cross zero in the comparison not equating total work, indicating it was very likely that the difference was real and of meaningful practical importance. Put simply, the data showed training a muscle 3x per week can in practice considerably improve strength development and muscle growth compared to traditional bro splits that train each muscle only 1x per week.
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Therefore, RT performed three times a week showed similar increases in 1RM and CSA to the program performed once a week, regardless of training volume equalization. Nevertheless, when the higher RT frequency allowed the application of a greater TTV (i.e., RTUV), higher effect size (ES) values (0.51 and 0.63, 1RM and CSA, respectively) were observed for the adaptations.
essentially what they found was if you equalize total tonnage, the group training 3x per week is having to hold back on intensity because they are more rested with the volume being spread across 3 days vs 1 day.
if you allow the 3x group to go up in volume as they feel comfortable with based on recovery.....you end up with more total volume/total tonnage which, based on the statistical analysis, resulted in approx twice as much muscle growth.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:50 am to lsu777
so does that mean doing a 3 day full body like this is probably best?


Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:52 am to lsu777
Thats great but how in the hell am I gonna train each body part 3x a week.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 8:58 am to bayouvette
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Thats great but how in the hell am I gonna train each body part 3x a week.
28 free programs by stronger by science
Base strength by Alexander bromley has a DUP 3x program that works great
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:24 am to whiskey over ice
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so does that mean doing a 3 day full body like this is probably best?
if overall volume also goes up....yes
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:28 am to bayouvette
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Thats great but how in the hell am I gonna train each body part 3x a week.
Maybe focus on legs one month, then arms the next, then back, etc... It seems that is how the PPSA programming is done.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 9:34 am to bayouvette
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Thats great but how in the hell am I gonna train each body part 3x a week.
plenty of DUP programs that you can do
plenty of full body programs you can do
but overall, dont have to do everybody part 3x per week. pick 2 or 3 body parts and hit them 3 times per week.
or pick lagging bodypart and use a ppl + lagging to bring up lagging bodypart.
look at squatober or other ppsa programming as example.
or hit them 2x per week or 3x over a 2 week period like gslp, doggcrapp, and others do.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:40 am to lsu777
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pick 2 or 3 body parts and hit them 3 times per week.
MAPS Aesthetic was good for this. You have 3 full body foundational days per week (think traditional compound lifts plus high volume accessories).
Then you pick 2 body parts that you want to focus on and pick 2 or 3 exercises for that body part to do 2 days per week. Ex: if I'm focusing on chest and quads then I might add Cable Flyes, Incline DB bench, leg extensions, and sissy squats 2 days per week. So now you're training 5 days per week total, 3 days you're hitting your bench press, squats, deads, etc and 2 days are just solely on chest and quads.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 10:55 am to Yeti_Chaser
yep maps is very good programs.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:02 am to lsu777
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The trainees performed one-legged leg presses. One leg did 9 sets once a week. The other leg did 3 sets 3x per week.
Well, yeah.
There's no way you are putting the tension required to build muscle on sets 4-9. If you are going at or near failure on the first 3 sets, you are going to be completely gassed and sets 4-9 will be absolute junk.
I've personally had the best luck with 2x per week 3 sets per session for a given muscle, taken to failure or past failure. I do PPLoffPPLoff
Jeff Nippard's latest video is pretty much how I feel about it: How to train like a minimalist
Also, an old but highly relevant article: frickAROUNDITIS
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:43 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I agree. You must go beyond failure or you are ate up with fickarounditis and are probably dicking around on your phone and flexing angle pics for instabook ho's.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:48 am to Tiger Ryno
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I agree. You must go beyond failure or you are ate up with fickarounditis and are probably dicking around on your phone and flexing angle pics for instabook ho's.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 12:02 pm to lsu777
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 5:44 pm to bayouvette
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Thats great but how in the hell am I gonna train each body part 3x a week.
Legs is stupid easy
My ideal training week is deadlift Monday, back or front squats Wednesday, squat cleans Friday
I’m never home bc of work so getting consistent training has been a lot harder depending on where we go.
Posted on 10/20/22 at 7:49 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Legs is stupid easy
Yep and so is bench. I always did comp bench, CGBP, and feet up bench. All on different days, CGBP and feet up were always high volume lower intensity lifts
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