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re: It’s Not Crazy To Think Biden Sabotaged Nord Stream To Deepen US Involvement In Ukraine

Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162289 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:47 am to
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Just look at how successful the "NATO" justification is on this board alone

The Putin propaganda was so successful we had Gumbo Pot repeating it back to us just the other day
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68474 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:47 am to
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Just remember that you got duped by Qanon


Hmmm.

Might want to check trumps amd Kash Patel's truth posts lately
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162289 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:48 am to
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Might want to check trumps amd Kash Patel's truth posts lately

Sounds like the most incel thing I could probably imagine doing

I think I'll pass
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2579 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:49 am to
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I think it's more likely than not.


Well I’m glad you are not in our international intelligence community. It is absolutely most likely that Russia did this. It fits their MO on how they have operated under Putin since he came in to power. He seeks a narrative that he can explain his actions by even if he creates the narrative and it’s faults if you look at his justification for invading and annexing Crimea, his justification for invading Ukraine, his justification for annexing the Donbas region.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:50 am to
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Just remember that you got duped by Qanon so maybe you aren't as perceptive as you think


Did you get the COVID vax?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119381 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:50 am to
Sorry Powerman. You and SFP are losing the information war. Logic, evidence and truth will prevail despite your blinders.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:51 am to
There is no cure for naivety and ignorance.

I stated an opinion and was met with an insult.

Who's the bigger man?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51995 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:51 am to
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I mean he hasn't exactly been acting rationally


Yeah, but considering they can just turn the pipeline off on their end, why go through the hassle of blowing it up under water in international waters? Why not shut it down from the source IN Russia?

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162289 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:52 am to
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Sorry Powerman. You and SFP are losing the information war.

Look if a bunch of mouth breathers here disagree with me I'm ok with that
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4376 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:52 am to
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as Carlson and others noted after the sabotage, Biden himself said back in February that if Russia invaded Ukraine, there would no longer be a Nord Stream 2, that “we will bring an end to it.”


What Tucker Carlson did was:

1. Dismissed the most likely answer by simply saying Putin is not stupid and blowing up the pipeline is stupid.
2. Then he primed the pump of confirmation bias by presenting a suspect to his audience that is stupid - Joe Biden.
3. Then he tells the audience Biden said he would do this and plays a clip of Biden saying he would bring the pipeline to an end.
4. He then summarizes the clip he just played by misquoting Biden as saying “We would bring it to an end. We would blow it up.”
5. And after this misquote he pivots the rest of the segment to accepting as true that the US blew up the pipeline and discusses why it’s terrible Biden did this.

There is no such thing as honest cable news. It is all just cable news. None of it is educational. It is all manipulative and in the case of Tucker and Ukraine just a sad forum for Russian misinformation to reach American audiences.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162289 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:52 am to
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Yeah, but considering they can just turn the pipeline off on their end, why go through the hassle of blowing it up under water in international waters? Why not shut it down from the source IN Russia?


That way he could frame it as an attack by the west and use it for justification of escalating things
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:52 am to
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44098 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:52 am to
Every nation that could credibly be responsible for the Nord Stream explosions has denied its involvement.

Folks are simply speculating.

I’m not seeing anyone state conclusively the US did it, but they’re certainly a possibility.

You denying it is as speculative as those who think US involvement is possible.

Time will tell. Maybe.
Posted by HVAU
Far, far away
Member since Sep 2010
4690 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:53 am to
You should check out this Jordan Peterson got guy. He’s a hero to so many people that feel the way you do.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 8:53 am
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15514 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:53 am to
It’s being proven right now that y’all were wrong on Putin’s intentions of this “special operation”. I think it’s best if we just stop paying attention to yalls sources on this conflict.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54198 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:53 am to
The intelligence community lied for 3-4 years about Russia collusion, they lied about the Hunter laptop being Russian disinfo (and sat on exculpatory evidence during the first Trump impeachment), they lied that Putin put bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan, and they concocted and ran the Whitmer kidnapping plot. Why should we believe them now?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 9:08 am
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:53 am to
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That way he could frame it as an attack by the west and use it for justification of escalating things


But the US/West has no reasons to "frame" anything huh?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 8:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425374 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:55 am to
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All the current evidence points to the US sabotaging the pipeline.

What evidence?

I don't think there's evidence of anything right now.

There is speculation, but not evidence.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 8:56 am
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
1681 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:56 am to
Oh come on , you maga republican , white supremacist, domestic terrorist, fascist,
threat to our democracy, conspiracy theorist.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39683 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:58 am to
circumstantial evidence is still evidence
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