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re: It’s Not Crazy To Think Biden Sabotaged Nord Stream To Deepen US Involvement In Ukraine
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:03 am to the_truman_shitshow
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:03 am to the_truman_shitshow
Sorry man seeing someone accuse Powerman of being a psy-op agent was too much. I see you are a newer account so you may not know his history here.
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:04 am to Vacherie Saint
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circumstantial evidence is still evidence
There's no circumstantial evidence right now, either
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:05 am to Decatur
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Sorry man seeing someone accuse Powerman of being a psy-op agent was too much. I see you are a newer account so you may not know his history here.
Just to add.
Back during the OT pickup basketball game era, I played basketball with Powerman multiple times. He also was with me at BBG the night of the LSU-OSU national title game in January 2008.
He's an actual person.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:06 am to Bunk Moreland
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Brennan and Natasha Bertrand lied to us on TV for three years over Russia collusion. When I see them make an accusation now, I assume the opposite. Call me crazy.
At least cite Glenn Greenwald on Twitter if you’re going to plagiarize him.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:07 am to the_truman_shitshow
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Starting to think that you are a shill.
Your rhetoric awfully does sound like a psyop agent.
Anyone here over 15 years is a paid shill by Big Chicken to keep this forum afloat.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:08 am to GeorgeTheGreek
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:09 am to GumboPot
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Sorry Powerman. You and SFP are losing the information war. Logic, evidence and truth will prevail despite your blinders.
Lol. Thank god you've moved on from butchering immunology on the daily, despite multiple attempts to correct you. God you are so damn dim.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:11 am to crazy4lsu
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:14 am to the_truman_shitshow
Damn you seem dim.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:15 am to GumboPot
It requires connecting dots that don't exist to wholeheartedly believe Russia destroyed their own shite.
False flags only work if you have the ability to control narratives on a massive scale. Russia doesn't have that ability, they only seem to have the ability to control narratives in their own country. It's nonsensical to believe Russia destroyed their own shite just to convince their citizens to get on board the war bandwagon. I mean, they control the narratives in Russia, they can do and say just about anything to incite their population, they don't need to sacrifice their own pipelines.
The idea that Russia destroyed it as a big frick you to Germany makes even less sense to me. It takes away Russia's leverage. It removes the potential of German citizens demanding their government work with Russia, to get the gas turned back on.
I understand that propaganda is a necessary annoyance. I just wish our government would be more convincing and put more effort into it. They used to be convincing. But now, they just seem to only be catering to the people who are their equivalent of the third Reich fanatics of yesteryear. The third Reich fanatics would believe everything the third Reich said, didn't have to make sense. As long as the third Reich said it and it appeared in their media, the fanatics would eat that shite up.
I'm just saying, it's not that I don't want to believe, it's just I can't in good faith believe something that sounds like it was made up in the last minute. Hell, say it was a seaquake or something. Then get a few 'experts' to come on tv and confirm it. I'd never know if it was true or not.
False flags only work if you have the ability to control narratives on a massive scale. Russia doesn't have that ability, they only seem to have the ability to control narratives in their own country. It's nonsensical to believe Russia destroyed their own shite just to convince their citizens to get on board the war bandwagon. I mean, they control the narratives in Russia, they can do and say just about anything to incite their population, they don't need to sacrifice their own pipelines.
The idea that Russia destroyed it as a big frick you to Germany makes even less sense to me. It takes away Russia's leverage. It removes the potential of German citizens demanding their government work with Russia, to get the gas turned back on.
I understand that propaganda is a necessary annoyance. I just wish our government would be more convincing and put more effort into it. They used to be convincing. But now, they just seem to only be catering to the people who are their equivalent of the third Reich fanatics of yesteryear. The third Reich fanatics would believe everything the third Reich said, didn't have to make sense. As long as the third Reich said it and it appeared in their media, the fanatics would eat that shite up.
I'm just saying, it's not that I don't want to believe, it's just I can't in good faith believe something that sounds like it was made up in the last minute. Hell, say it was a seaquake or something. Then get a few 'experts' to come on tv and confirm it. I'd never know if it was true or not.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Aside from several public threats to "end" the pipeline "one way or another" from several US leaders including Biden. Or the Former Polish defense minister and current chair of EU/US relations publicly thanking the US for it. Or just the innumerable motives and ability we have...
Other than that, nothing.
Other than that, nothing.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:19 am to Decatur
Biden didn't do anything outside of choosing what flavor of ice cream he wanted. Valarie Jarrett is the president, acting on orders of Obama
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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He also was with me at BBG the night of the LSU-OSU national title game in January 2008.
Man I got completely hammered that night
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:29 am to Bunk Moreland
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The intelligence community lied for 3-4 years about Russia collusion, they lied about the Hunter laptop being Russian disinfo (and sat on exculpatory evidence during the first Trump impeachment), they lied that Putin put bounties on American soldiers in Afghanistan, and they concocted and ran the Whitmer kidnapping plot. Why should we believe them now?
The Russian Collusion stuff was bullshite.
However, Russia did do some shite. They definitely sent spies to try to entrap Trump. It didn't work, and that's why the collusion shite is bullshite, but Russia was involved in some high level spycraft.
The US Intel Community took that little bit and then ran with it to extreme levels, but there was involvement by Russia.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:29 am to JayDeerTay84
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But the US/West has no reasons to "frame" anything huh?
It's possible but we already have Russia invading a peaceful nation unprovoked. We don't need much more than that moving forward.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:30 am to GumboPot
And one day "for no reason at all" billions will die in nuclear fire.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:30 am to Vacherie Saint
It's hilarious to me to see people dismiss our potential involvement in something like this. The United States has been doing this kind of stuff almost constantly since the end of WW2. We've overthrown governments, fomented coups, assassinated democratically elected leaders, instigated civil wars, backed leaders engaged in genocide, invaded multiple sovereign countries and droned thousands of civilians to death in multiple countries. Of course you'll hear nothing of this from our political class or our "news" outlets, as they try and paint this as some sort of good versus evil battle.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:34 am to SCLibertarian
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It's hilarious to me to see people dismiss our potential involvement in something like this.
I don't think anyone is completely dismissing it
I'm just saying it's irresponsible to speak as if we 100% know that we did it
Gumbo Pot has done so in several threads
Now he is walking it back to say that he just thinks it's likely and not certain
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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I already explained the simple reason Russia would. Same reason they concocted the bull shite "NATO" justification for invasion.
Do you work for the CIA? Or any other gment agency?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 9:38 am to Powerman
The irresponsible ones would be our leaders who definitively threatened the pipelines if Russia invades Ukraine. Pipelines get destroyed, of course we looking at the people who threatened them.
Trump threatened to nuke Moscow, if Moscow mysteriously got nuked while trump was in office, We'd automatically think trump did that shite.
Trump threatened to nuke Moscow, if Moscow mysteriously got nuked while trump was in office, We'd automatically think trump did that shite.
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