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re: Smashing Pumpkins new single Beguiled

Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:55 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:55 am to
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Don’t know if it was 100% accurate but it would explain some of the toxic relationships that developed in the band.



The band went off the rails on the drug train and a lot of it was heroin. Billy was having to pull the wagon by himself quite a bit.

It wasn't just D'arcy (although she was in bad, bad shape there for awhile). James was in pretty bad shape. Jimmy OD'd with the touring keyboard player (Melvoin, Wendy of the Revolution's brother, the inspiration for that excruciating "Arms of the Angels", etc.), the keyboard player died and Jimmy almost died.

Jimmy's job was the only one Billy couldn't do. It was also the easiest to hire out, frankly, when it had to be done.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11545 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:39 pm to
Billy is a musical genius. Jimmy is an extremely talented musician.

There is a difference.

What did y'all expect from Billy anyway? Music video was right up his alley. It had a train wreck appeal to it, I had to watch it to the end.
Posted by Master Guilbeau
Member since Jan 2013
1136 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:34 am to
Jimmy is one of my all time fav drummers. Some of his stuff on machina was amazing.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17329 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 4:08 pm to
OK, the video sucks, but that riff isn't bad at all. It's definitely one of the better sounding tracks of the newer SP stuff. Still, the old magical days are gone.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6713 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:37 pm to
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On another note, where’s the goddam Machina reissue already??
Billy says it’s done and Warner is why it hasn’t been released.
Posted by KAHog
South Trough
Member since Mar 2013
2439 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:14 am to
Seeing them Sunday. Never seen them or JA live, hoping it’s a great show.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24866 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:38 am to
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Jimmy is a better drummer than Billy



I thought you meant Iha. My bad. Too many Jims in the band


Chamberlain is one of the best drummers of the 90s and belongs in the conversation with Danny Carey from Tool and Sean Kinny from AIC (criminally underrated drummer).



quote:

And the B sides to the Zero single


Great stuff as are many of their other B sides. Billy is an amazing composer
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:43 pm to
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Chamberlain is one of the best drummers of the 90s and belongs in the conversation with Danny Carey from Tool and Sean Kinny from AIC (criminally underrated drummer).


They're all good, but neither of them is even in the same league as Danny Carey.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30342 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 12:00 pm to
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like it. I hate arena shows but may go see them with Jane's Addiction.




Going to the Houston show on Monday.

:Can't wait:
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30342 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 12:40 am to
Anyone go to the Dallas show tonight? The North American tour kicks off tonight in Dallas and I'll be at the Houston show tomorrow. Sneak peek of the setlist?
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
21057 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:24 am to
LINK

Looks a pretty solid setlist
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30342 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:36 am to
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Looks a pretty solid setlist



Awesome, thanks.Kinda disappointed, but I'll live.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24313 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:01 am to
The riff sounds like "Eye of the Beholder" from Metallica.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30342 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:16 am to
Ok, back from the show. I don't want to ruin in for anyone so I'll be brief. It starts EARLY. Jane's Addiction was on stage for 7:30 and didn't play all that long. They fricking jammed but I was left hoping for another 3 songs. Great show, but too short. If you're late, you'll miss them altogether. Many did last night.

The Pumpkins sounded better than I've ever heard them live. Absolutely bring it down. My only problem is that I really only loved Siamese Dream and that was about 25% of the show. It was great music, great sound, great visual, very very good show.

It was over by 11. I guess all us old fricks need our sleep.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
2911 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:06 pm to
I grew up absolutely loving SP. Even went and saw them in Prague for the Melloncollie tour.
They fell apart during Adore unfortunately. That video was so cheesy I was waiting for some of Billy’s wresting teams to come out and start snapping necks. The video made me think it was the opening credits to his wresting show.
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