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More you weigh, harder it is on the body. Muscle is great but it adds pounds. It’s just a metric to use and doesn’t account for everything. A low bmi person could have terrible cardio health while a 200lb 6’0 person could run all day. The 200lbs will subtract from longevity but the increased fitness will add to longevity.

not true for muscle. bodyfat percentage is a much bigger factor and there are no studies showing highly muscled individuals corolate to shorter life spans or that high amounts of SMM contribute negatively in anyway to all cause mortaility. Actually all the studies show opposite.

i got in to the same arguement with the doctors at barbell medicine when i made same claim as you. they challenged me to find any study at all that shows that....there arent any

needless to say i lost

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Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu

Central, LA

Member since Jan 2013

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Posted on 8/22/22 at 11:29 am to lsu777

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there arent any

Nice. Now I can go back to my regularly scheduled program of arguing with doctors. Sweet.

I switched the way I was thinking about BMI to the current versions by the whole weight with muscle mass. Sounded like a solid argument that made sense so I ran with it.

Now saying there is no evidence or study doesn’t mean not true. Maybe there just hasn’t been a study to show an excess amount of muscle to make the BMI go to overweight category causes decreased heart efficiency. Same time though, a year or two lost from muscle weight but added 5 years from exercising is still a positive of 3 years.

I’ve been reading that muscle mass is a better indicator than BMI. Don’t know if that’s just exercising helps and muscle is a by-product or that the muscle itself helps.

Got a lot of random thoughts in this response haha

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Posted by Mingo Was His NameO

Brooklyn

Member since Mar 2016

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Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:33 pm to lsu777

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not true for muscle. bodyfat percentage is a much bigger factor and there are no studies showing highly muscled individuals corolate to shorter life spans or that high amounts of SMM contribute negatively in anyway to all cause mortaility. Actually all the studies show opposite.

Id like to see this. Tons of powerlifters and body builders need CPAP's, have heart attacks in their 50s, etc.

The heart attacks I'm sure can at least in part be due to "supplementation," but I find that data fairly hard to believe and that it's accurate enough to even draw conclusions.

In the simplest sense, your lungs and heart don't know what kind of tissue that extra 30 lbs sitting on them is.

I havent looked into it so I'm more than willing to be wrong.

This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 12:37 pm

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